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whats a good flash right now for h3d2 50
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blowupster
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Why not using the EL battery to load flash ?
This batteries allow to take more than 1000 pictures. If a part is use for a flash it will help keeping light !
Why not using the EL battery to load flash ?
This batteries allow to take more than 1000 pictures. If a part is use for a flash it will help keeping light !
blowupster
Member
As you use digital, whay not trying "strobist" way ?
You use your digital as "flashmeter".
I have 5 dedicated flash for Hasselblad, however I use other ones wireless.
One of these flash is the interesting D-40. TTL only or full manual mode made it inusable in 95% of case.
Paul Claesson HUSA
Member
Hasselblad sells an SCA 3902 adapter for Metz, Hasselblad product #3053393 which is available through any authorized Hasselblad dealer, if they do not have in stock, the dealer can order it.
I just tested my Metz 54MZ-3 with an H3DII39 with TTL and it works fine and is compatible.
Regarding dealers in your local area, we are in an age where you can purchase on the internet and have it delivered to your door.
Paul
Paul Claesson HUSA
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Paul Claesson HUSA
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Lemon,
The current 7.2v lithium ion batteries do not require a full discharge as was the case with NiCad batteries.
"your reps solution was " get two nails and a resistor in the middle..""
This is a new one. What is the name of the Rep?
Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA
Lithium Ion Guidelines:
lithion ion battery should not have any memory ..but we all know it does...am sure any person with with an iphone can prove this point of mine...but ok..if you say so... lets just say we dont need to drain it completely...BUT
when i got my canon 1ds mark 3 last year..it had a charger where batteries slide into it . Something substancial. i was even expecting something from looks of a makita ..charging station for a drill...but not a plug and a cord...come on...we just plunked in a huge investment...
Lemon
when i got my canon 1ds mark 3 last year..it had a charger where batteries slide into it . Something substancial. i was even expecting something from looks of a makita ..charging station for a drill...but not a plug and a cord...come on...we just plunked in a huge investment...
Lemon
Paul Claesson HUSA
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polypal
Active Member
Apparently not all lithium ion batteries are created equal.
My mobile phone uses lithium ion technology and is plugged into the power socket of my car as soon as I drive away.
That battery is three years old, still has its full capacity no matter how often it was charged when only partly discharged.
My mobile phone uses lithium ion technology and is plugged into the power socket of my car as soon as I drive away.
That battery is three years old, still has its full capacity no matter how often it was charged when only partly discharged.
Paul Claesson HUSA
Member
Lemon,
I am not certain how to respond to the comments above.
I have had excellent performance from 7.2v batteries that I use when performing demos or speaking at Hasselblad University or shooting for myself.
If you have a constructive criticism that I can pass onto the factory that would be of benefit to you, the participants in this forum as well all the other Hasselblad photographers worldwide.
The charger does as it designed to charge a 7.2v Lithium Ion battery.
The cord can be wrapped around the charger and is rather compact, with as much traveling that I do, I prefer that compared to larger and heavier unit, this last sentence in my personal preference and not that of my company.
Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA
A few points.
For TTL work on the H camera the Metz solution is excellent and VERY accurate. It IS TTL ... get it ... IT IS TTL!
Limonlib is correct, Metz doesn't list the Hasselblad as supported, nor is the SCA 3902 Module even listed.
But there it is on the retailer sites all over the place ... (just google SCA 3902) ... so who cares if it's not listed by Metz? It may be some deal with Hasselblad for exclusive rights or something. But again, who cares? You can buy them anywhere.
Battery, no issues. if it's not giving you enough shots per charge, learn how to reset the battery "fuel gauge" on the camera. 9 times out of 10 that's the problem, not the battery. The camera thinks the battery is low when it isn't, and it can fake you out thinking the battery is developing a memory ... which it isn't. It's relatively rare, but it's happened to me once on my H3D-II/31. Takes 30 seconds to do.
Maybe you need to learn about your camera before criticizing it? Not that it's perfect, and not that you couldn't have some real issues. But so far, it appears you just don't know the camera yet.
For TTL work on the H camera the Metz solution is excellent and VERY accurate. It IS TTL ... get it ... IT IS TTL!
Limonlib is correct, Metz doesn't list the Hasselblad as supported, nor is the SCA 3902 Module even listed.
But there it is on the retailer sites all over the place ... (just google SCA 3902) ... so who cares if it's not listed by Metz? It may be some deal with Hasselblad for exclusive rights or something. But again, who cares? You can buy them anywhere.
Battery, no issues. if it's not giving you enough shots per charge, learn how to reset the battery "fuel gauge" on the camera. 9 times out of 10 that's the problem, not the battery. The camera thinks the battery is low when it isn't, and it can fake you out thinking the battery is developing a memory ... which it isn't. It's relatively rare, but it's happened to me once on my H3D-II/31. Takes 30 seconds to do.
Maybe you need to learn about your camera before criticizing it? Not that it's perfect, and not that you couldn't have some real issues. But so far, it appears you just don't know the camera yet.
i love the camera...my only gripe was the charger..and no one had a supporting flash "on record" so we were like ...now what?..great for studio ..but what for outside assignments..(weddings)...i was just used to my old 2 by 2's..my old elx and 503..i was expecting more for the investment we just plunkned ...thats all...
Lemon
Lemon
Lemon, I guess I still don't understand. There IS a flash system, and it's on record right on the Hasselblad site for which I gave you the link. I use this system to shoot weddings. I would not have bought the H3D-II/31 if there was no TTL system for it ... and Hasselblad would have wasted a ton of money building a TTL camera if there wasn't a flash for it.
Quantum once made the D19W wireless QTTL adapter for the Hasselblad H system, but it has since been discontinued according to the B&H web site ... however, it is still listed on the Quantum web site.
Metz has always made independent flashes that use TTL modules for a number of different cameras. In the case of Hasselblad those module components are branded Hasselblad. I'd bet Hasselblad has done this to assure quality control of any component associated with their products.
In the past, the 2X2 V system has had some complete flash systems made by others that were branded and sold by Hasselblad. The Proflash 4504 and D40 are examples of such proprietary flashes made for Hasselblad by an outside flash company that carry the Hasselblad branding. Metz made the 4504 and Sunpack made the D40 with Hasselblad's design and manufacturing input.
The TTL module for the H system is no different ... the Metz SCA 3902 is branded with the Hasselblad Logo. As far as the flash unit itself is concerned, everyone knows that Metz makes high quality flashes that accept different controlling modular TTL units.
This modular approach is a MUCH better solution for Hasselblad photographers than the Proflash 4504 or D40 were. The Metz 54 and 75/76 can be used for a range of different camera systems by just changing the TTL module. I also use my Metz 54 and 75 on my 503CW, Nikon, Sony and Leica ... and before that on my Mamiya 645 and Canon 1D series cameras.
If you don't like the charger that's your opinion. It's sure better than the one that came with my very expensive Leica M8 ... now that was/is a piece of junk.
Quantum once made the D19W wireless QTTL adapter for the Hasselblad H system, but it has since been discontinued according to the B&H web site ... however, it is still listed on the Quantum web site.
Metz has always made independent flashes that use TTL modules for a number of different cameras. In the case of Hasselblad those module components are branded Hasselblad. I'd bet Hasselblad has done this to assure quality control of any component associated with their products.
In the past, the 2X2 V system has had some complete flash systems made by others that were branded and sold by Hasselblad. The Proflash 4504 and D40 are examples of such proprietary flashes made for Hasselblad by an outside flash company that carry the Hasselblad branding. Metz made the 4504 and Sunpack made the D40 with Hasselblad's design and manufacturing input.
The TTL module for the H system is no different ... the Metz SCA 3902 is branded with the Hasselblad Logo. As far as the flash unit itself is concerned, everyone knows that Metz makes high quality flashes that accept different controlling modular TTL units.
This modular approach is a MUCH better solution for Hasselblad photographers than the Proflash 4504 or D40 were. The Metz 54 and 75/76 can be used for a range of different camera systems by just changing the TTL module. I also use my Metz 54 and 75 on my 503CW, Nikon, Sony and Leica ... and before that on my Mamiya 645 and Canon 1D series cameras.
If you don't like the charger that's your opinion. It's sure better than the one that came with my very expensive Leica M8 ... now that was/is a piece of junk.
polypal
Active Member
The 4504 Flash is basically a Metz 45CT4 flash with built in adapter for Hasselblad TTL/OTF cameras.
The 4504 can still be used with other adapters to work with any other camera in TTL mode exactly like a 45CT4 Metz does.
The advantage of the 4504 lies in less cable/adapter mess.
A simple cord that forks at the camera side is used to connct the 4504 with the TTL socket of the body and the PC socket of the lens.
With a SCA 3902 this 4504 also goes TTL with any H camera.
How is that for compatibility?
The 4504 can still be used with other adapters to work with any other camera in TTL mode exactly like a 45CT4 Metz does.
The advantage of the 4504 lies in less cable/adapter mess.
A simple cord that forks at the camera side is used to connct the 4504 with the TTL socket of the body and the PC socket of the lens.
With a SCA 3902 this 4504 also goes TTL with any H camera.
How is that for compatibility?
Now that one I DIDN'T know. I like my 4504 because it's a bit more compact than the Metz 75 for travel.
How does that work since the 4504 is a SCA 300 system ?