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Hot Promo Deal On H3D-II/31

Hi everybody

I was today on the press conference of Hasselblad. Prices are confirmed. I had no access to internet earlier, was always in meetings...

The Camera-info News team is the whole week at Photokina to report about the most important news. The English News section has to be updated more often, but there is just no time during daylight. German news section is a little bit more up to date. Just hit the country flag at the upper right hand corner.

I do think that the future is really exciting for Medium Format users. Slowly it gets into price regions, which also "normal" human beeings can afford.

Best wishes
 
V? There's still a V-series at Hasselblad?


You are on very dangerous territory here. :z02_mod_boese:

hasselbladinfo forum is still strongly built on V cameras and their users.

Without V cameras there would be no H series.
Without the V series H cameras would not be the succes they rightly deserve.

The Hasselblad name is known world wide because of the V cameras.
THe V series were for many decades the standard of professional photography.
No other MF camera comes even close to that well deserved reputation. :lol:
 
Hum.

40% for Hasselblad H
0% for Hasselblad V ?

:angry:


I thought the 503CWD-II with the 40mm IF lens for $12,995 USD was already a pretty good deal....so I bought one a month ago. I would be pretty bummed out if they dropped the price by 40% today!

Now if Hasselblad would come out with a CFV-III back that was 48x48 and 22+ megapixels for 40% less than the CFV-II... I'd be ok with that, for sure.... it would be the perfect excuse to upgrade!:z04_carrot:
 
I thought the 503CWD-II with the 40mm IF lens for $12,995 USD was already a pretty good deal....so I bought one a month ago. I would be pretty bummed out if they dropped the price by 40% today!

Now if Hasselblad would come out with a CFV-III back that was 48x48 and 22+ megapixels for 40% less than the CFV-II... I'd be ok with that, for sure.... it would be the perfect excuse to upgrade!:z04_carrot:

I guess they would even find lots of takers for that CFV-III without taking 40% off the price.

Wilko
 
On the Hasselblad CWD 40 % off would be 5000 USD.
In the unlikely event that were to happen it sure would hurt.

What about the guy who bought a H3D39Mp camera three months ago for 34.000 euro.
That camera is now offered for 20.000 euro.

The 14000 euro price drop is 20.000 USD
Try to explain that to the customer that paid 34.000 euro. :z04_pc2:
 
Hi everybody

(...)

The Camera-info News team is the whole week at Photokina to report about the most important news. (...)

Best wishes
I'm surprised. There were only a bar and a list prices for Hasselblad show in Koln ?

If Hasselblad do not want to turbo-promote the CFV, I hope PhaseOne or others will do it.

Why collect hard to sell apples when easy cash is on the floor ?
 
Hello all.
I'm new to this forum, but I found you on a Yahoo! search.

I suspect that many of you are seasoned professionals or camera dealers etc.
Me, I am a seasoned serious amateur. I have a Nikon D200 and a Mamiya RB67 Pro S. I like all forms of photography, but I really like fashion work and landscapes. Also macro.

I am seriously thinking of getting a H3D-II/31 with a standard 80mm lens, but reading this thread, I don't know.

It's a lot of money, and I have read of technical "problems" occurring with these cameras. What are the problems? Easily fixed? The crop factor of 1.3x issue, serious? Will this camera be made redundant/obsolete in the near future, in other words, is the "lower price" offer a teaser just to get the punters in?
OK, the D200 is "obsolete", that is not what I meant. What I mean is, will spares/upgrades etc likely still be available? The D200 cost a miserly £1200, the H3 is £11,000. You see where I'm coming from?

Would YOU buy this camera?

Loads of questions, no answers. Any help would be great, thanks in advance

David.
 
David

Although I work with a HASSELBLAD CFV digital back , I do not have enough experience , to answer all your questions .
But I would like to welcome you here in the forum and I do hope , that we will see some of your work soon .

Regards Jürgen
 
Hello all.
I'm new to this forum, but I found you on a Yahoo! search.

I suspect that many of you are seasoned professionals or camera dealers etc.
Me, I am a seasoned serious amateur. I have a Nikon D200 and a Mamiya RB67 Pro S. I like all forms of photography, but I really like fashion work and landscapes. Also macro.

I am seriously thinking of getting a H3D-II/31 with a standard 80mm lens, but reading this thread, I don't know.

It's a lot of money, and I have read of technical "problems" occurring with these cameras. What are the problems? Easily fixed? The crop factor of 1.3x issue, serious? Will this camera be made redundant/obsolete in the near future, in other words, is the "lower price" offer a teaser just to get the punters in?
OK, the D200 is "obsolete", that is not what I meant. What I mean is, will spares/upgrades etc likely still be available? The D200 cost a miserly £1200, the H3 is £11,000. You see where I'm coming from?



Loads of questions, no answers. Any help would be great, thanks in advance

David.

Welcome David.

Not to discount anyone having had problems, but we have to remember that these forums are world-wide, and people with issues tend to speak up more than those without them.

It is also important to carefully select the dealer that you buy from as they can walk through you how to use these cameras, plus help deal with any issues should they arise, and as often as not help you correct them instantly.

"Would YOU buy this camera?"

Would I? Yes. And I did. Twice.

I have owned a Hasselblad H3D/31, H3D/39 ... and now an H2F, H3D-II/31 and H3D-II/39. They all have been flawless performers, and I count on them day-in and day-out. I even use the H3D-II/31 to shoot weddings on a regular basis ... I would not trust someone's precious wedding images to a camera that was trouble, or prone to failure. Trust me on this, no brand loyalty is worth risking one's professional reputation on.

Coming from a D200 you will be flabbergasted by the image quality ... quality that doesn't necessarily show up when viewing sub one meg compressed files on the internet ... but DOES take your breath away when viewed as prints.

The crop frame is all relative. Since Hasselblad offers a 28mm for use on the H3D-II/31 (for a field of view of a 36mm), wide angle is not an issue ... and at the other end, the 300mm + EX-1.7X provides the field of view of a 663mm.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Here's one from my last wedding that was printed to 17" X 22" ... shot hand held with a HC/50mm on a H3D-II/31:
 

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Hello David,

I would also like to welcome you at the forum.

This is a unique meeting place where users of Hasselblad cameras come together to exchange information and their latest experiences.
There is no difference between those who make a living by using their cameras and those who simply enjoy using one of the best camera systems in the world.

Now that Marc has taken you under his wing for getting acquainted with the H series you are in safe hands.

Maybe keep the option open to the V series.
It depends on your subjects and the way you take pictures which camera suits you best.
The H series offer AF and a choice of light measuring.
The V series is all manual and offers light measurement with a suitable prism.
That information has to be brought manually to the lens.

Paul
 
Hello Marc and Paul, and thank you both for your replies to my post.

Marc, thanks for your reply, it has encouraged me somewhat, and yes, your picture quality is quite stunning, which spurs me ever nearer to the dealer's door! Printing pictures is my main objective, and I agree, compressed sub 1 meg or less jpegs for the web are not really a good way to demonstrate the capabilities of a camera when it comes to image quality etc. The print in the hand is king in that respect!

The crop factor, isn't really a big issue as such, but, like the D200, I don't want to buy expensive lenses for the H3D-II/31, and a few years later find that they are a little useless on the latest (and possibly better) Hasselblad..al la D200 ->D3 with full frame.

With regards to dealers, yes, I will and only ever have dealt with reputable camera dealers..both here in the UK and in South Africa. I would not trust £11,000 - £12,000 of my hard earned money to "grey-importers"!

Paul, yes, I am completely open to other Hasselblad digital camera configurations. I have even tried to get my Mamiya RB67 Pro S kitted out with a digital back, so I am quite used to doing everything manually, and I am not really that bothered about AF and in-camera exposure reading. But, it seems to me that all other options in this respect are more expensive than the H3, hence my original question..why is the H3 so "cheap"? Owing to the few Mamiya ZD reviews that I have read, I am not too inclined to own one of them..besides, since being a kid, I have ALWAYS wanted a Hasselblad! Good enough reason to get one now I think.

Can I ask another question? In this thread, I have see the team "for shooting T/S". What is T/S please?

Best regards

David
 
Hi David,

T/S stands for tilt/shift the technique to control perspective and focus used with cameras that allow the lens to be shifted and or tilted related to the standard position.

Try to use the quote function at the bottom of a post to copy the text in that post and show it is used as a quote. That makes it easier to find what you are commenting or asking about.

The price drop for the H3D31Mp was announced before the general drop of 40% on all H cameras.
The only reason I can think of was an attack at the Mamiya ZD camera.
Keep in mind the H3D31Mp has the smallest sensor of all H series cameras.
Small sensors are on the way out in MF.
If a small sensor does not bother you the H3D31 Mp is alright.
On the other hand the H3D39 single shot is not so much more expensive at 14.995 euro

Paul
 
Hi David,

T/S stands for tilt/shift the technique to control perspective and focus used with cameras that allow the lens to be shifted and or tilted related to the standard position.

Try to use the quote function at the bottom of a post to copy the text in that post and show it is used as a quote. That makes it easier to find what you are commenting or asking about.

The price drop for the H3D31Mp was announced before the general drop of 40% on all H cameras.
The only reason I can think of was an attack at the Mamiya ZD camera.
Keep in mind the H3D31Mp has the smallest sensor of all H series cameras.
Small sensors are on the way out in MF.
If a small sensor does not bother you the H3D31 Mp is alright.
On the other hand the H3D39 single shot is not so much more expensive at 14.995 euro

Paul

Actually Paul, quite the contrary ... hardly going the way of the Dodo, the 4872 X 6496 sensor MF digital cameras are more popular than ever, and have become the lead horse in drawing new users into MF digital photography. It is the larger sized 22 meg sensors that are on their way out ... Kodak stopped production of them. The 31 meg sensor is now the entry level camera.

For example, Sinar just announced their new entry level camera with the fully integrated Hy6-65 that uses the exact same 31 meg Kodak sensor as the Hasselblad H3D/II/31. Phase One also has bundled the Phase One/Mamiya camera with their popular P30+ ... same sensor. The H3D-II/31 remains the least expensive of the lot, (IMO, probably due to the success of the promo, and because they have been making a bundled 31 meg camera "system" longer than the others.)

Clarification: The original H3D-II/31 price reduction was a promotion until Dec. 2008 ... with the Photokina announcement, Hasselblad made the lower promo price permanent. There was no further reduction. BTW, as I understand it, the 40% drop is not applicable to all H cameras ... it is "up to" 40%.

David, the lens selections for the H3D (or all the H cameras), is primarily full coverage. The exception to this is the HC/28mm which covers all current H Digital sensors ( 31 meg., 39 meg., and 50 meg,) but does not cover a full 645 frame. The other exception will be the new shorter zoom. All other HC lenses: 35, 50, 50-110, 80, 100, 120, 150, and 300mm cover the full 645 frame and can also be used with a film H camera with full coverage.

In addition, using the ingenious CF adapter, all C, CF, CFi and CFE Zeiss manual focus lenses made for the Hasselblad V system can be used on the H cameras ... The H camera is programed to recognize the CFE versions, and allows you to to select all the other non CFE focal lengths with the LCD grip menu ... the lenses remain auto stop down, and the H camera provides in-camera focus conformation which makes focusing wide angle Zeiss optics in low light much, much easier. I have most all of these lenses and use them on my H digital cameras ... making it one of the most extensive systems in the world.

As to the difference between the 31 and 39 ... under normal circumstances one would be hard pressed to tell the difference in image quality. If one plans to shoot with a technical camera like a Sinar P or Rollei Xact using tilts and shifts, then the 39 is the better choice as the micro lenses on the 31 can cause color shifts. This, however, is not true for the new T/S adapter from Hasselblad since they have programed software corrections for the 31 sensor.

On the other hand, the 31 provides and extra stop of ISO (800) and is a faster camera to use.
 
This is all interesting stuff.

As a matter of interest, what is the focal range of the H3's 80mm lens please?

Regards

David
 
This is all interesting stuff.

As a matter of interest, what is the focal range of the H3's 80mm lens please?

Regards

David

David, on the H3D/31 the 80 produces a field-of-view of a 104mm ... still within the "normal" lens range. The lens factor of the 31 meg backs is 1.3X.
 
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