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Hot Promo Deal On H3D-II/31

keith_laban said:
I seem to recall someone (possibly Marc) saying that the Hot Promo Deal on the H3D/31 was to be extended from the original finish date of 31st August until the end of the year. Can anyone (possibly Marc) confirm this?
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I believe it was extended to December 31st, 2008. A call to an authorized Hasselblad dealer can confirm this.

The H3D-II/31 promotion has been a success according to my sources.
 
keith_laban said:
Many thanks Marc, I'll look into it further.
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Keith, if you are looking to do T/S work on a field camera, this back is not the one for you. The Micro lenses used to enhance performance cause unacceptable color shifts when using T/S. A CF22, or Phase One P25+ may be a better choice.
 
Thanks Marc. Yes indeed, I had considered waiting to see if the HTS worked well with the H3D-11/31 without producing colour shifts, but there again I'm not at all keen on the 1.5 lens factor.

At the moment I'm still keeping all options open. One advantage of Hasselblad's super offer is the issue of other manufacturers/dealers feeling they need to stay competitive and feeling compelled to do deals.

Interesting times.
 
keith_laban said:
Thanks Marc. Yes indeed, I had considered waiting to see if the HTS worked well with the H3D-11/31 without producing colour shifts, but there again I'm not at all keen on the 1.5 lens factor.

At the moment I'm still keeping all options open. One advantage of Hasselblad's super offer is the issue of other manufacturers/dealers feeling they need to stay competitive and feeling compelled to do deals.

Interesting times.
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The H3D-II is 1.3X not 1.5X ... in actual use it is hard to detect. It does affect the 28mm making it more like a 32mm ... which is still pretty wide on a MF camera. However, the HTS will add even more X factor ... if that's what you mean.

Depends greatly on application. I never use the H3D-II/31 for anything except as a higher IQ replacement for the Canon 1DsMKIII that I sold. I use a H3D-II/39 on a Rollei Xact-II in studio, and that back almost never leaves it's Kapture Group sliding mount. The 28mm Digital APO Rodenstock is very wide and a spectacular performer ... once you shoot with that, everything else is a compromise.
 
fotografz said:
The H3D-II is 1.3X not 1.5X ... in actual use it is hard to detect. It does affect the 28mm making it more like a 32mm ... which is still pretty wide on a MF camera. However, the HTS will add even more X factor ... if that's what you mean.

Depends greatly on application. I never use the H3D-II/31 for anything except as a higher IQ replacement for the Canon 1DsMKIII that I sold. I use a H3D-II/39 on a Rollei Xact-II in studio, and that back almost never leaves it's Kapture Group sliding mount. The 28mm Digital APO Rodenstock is very wide and a spectacular performer ... once you shoot with that, everything else is a compromise.
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Marc, I was referring to the 1.5x lens factor of the HTS 1.5, not the 1.3 lens factor of the H3D-11/31, although obviously this is indeed an issue.
 
BTW, if I buy "The hot promo", is it possible -and at what prize- to get a plate to adapt the digital back to Hasselblad V ?
 
blowupster said:
BTW, if I buy "The hot promo", is it possible -and at what prize- to get a plate to adapt the digital back to Hasselblad V ?
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The H3D-II/31 is an integrated camera system. There are no adapter plates. The H mount cannot be changed.

The H3D-II backs can be used on a view camera using a H adapter plate. 3rd party vendors such as Kapture Group make digital back mounts for view cameras with different interchangable plates, including a H mount.

For a Hasselblad back that would work on a H1, H2 or current H2F camera AND a 500 series V camera, or most any other MF camera, you would need a CF type back that offers interchangable plates called iAdapters. Hasselblad does not make a 31 meg CF back.
 
Prize during Photokina (Euro) :

1*/ H3DII- 50 - 36*48mm – 50 Mpixels : 17 995.00 HT

2*/ H3DII- 60 - (Dalsa) 40,2*53,7mm – 60,1 Mpixels : 22 995.00 HT

*Q1 2009.

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- H3DII31 + 2.8/80 HC 11995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39 + 2.8/80 HC 14995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39-MS 19995,00 H.T !
 
blowupster said:
Prize during Photokina (Euro) :

1*/ H3DII- 50 - 36*48mm – 50 Mpixels : 17 995.00 HT

2*/ H3DII- 60 - (Dalsa) 40,2*53,7mm – 60,1 Mpixels : 22 995.00 HT

*Q1 2009.

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- H3DII31 + 2.8/80 HC 11995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39 + 2.8/80 HC 14995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39-MS 19995,00 H.T !
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Hm. Quickly pronounced it does not sound like serious money :z04_2171:

But all in all, there appear to be enough players on the MF digital market to keep life interesting for the foreseeable future. Looks like MF has not (yet?) succumbed to the siren songs of the C* and N* of this world. Or the song of S* for that matter . And with competition we should see interesting new developments, as well as pressure to keep the Hasselblad's of this world honest with regards to prices.

All in all, we can say we live in interesting times.

Wilko
 
For various reasons I think we will see some welcome competition in the MF digital scene.
The move to larger and more powerful systems will see to a drop in prices for used digital gear that is now considered state of the art.

Newcomer Leica will want a piece of the cake. Interesting to see how they are planning to do that.
They might start by appointing a professional crew for the production of video.
The statement Dr. Kaufmann, president of Leica, made was so horribly filmed and edited I did not bother to hear him out.
The S2 camera deserves a better promotion than this video.
 
blowupster said:
Prize during Photokina (Euro) :

1*/ H3DII- 50 - 36*48mm – 50 Mpixels : 17 995.00 HT

2*/ H3DII- 60 - (Dalsa) 40,2*53,7mm – 60,1 Mpixels : 22 995.00 HT

*Q1 2009.

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- H3DII31 + 2.8/80 HC 11995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39 + 2.8/80 HC 14995,00 HT !

- Le H3DII39-MS 19995,00 H.T !
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How much is 22,995 HT in US dollars? I don't know what HT stands for to make the conversion myself.

Where did the information about the 60 meg Dalsa sensor for the Hasselblad H3D-II/60 come from? Phase One has the same sensor in the new P65+, but says it is exclusive to them.
 
Thanks. But where did you get those prices from? A dealer? Hasselblad Rep.? Who gave you the information?

If they are accurate and apply to the USA, then Hasselblad's prices are better than Phase One's for the 60 meg camera.

FYI ... it's "Price" not "Prize" ... even though the gear could be considered a "Prized Possession" : -)
 
I presume the prices quoted are the latest as mentioned at the Photo Kina in Cologne or Köln as the Germans write and say.

Blowupster is from the French speaking part of Switzerland and tries very hard to write his posts in English.
I know that can be a difficult and time consuming matter.
Nevertheless his contributions are most welcome even with some mistakes in spelling.


The English language can be difficult at times:

English/Americans write "Street" .
In stead of "straight" as people in Holland would say for "Street" they say "striet".
All the time they mean "Straat". "Straat" sounds like Art and is the Dutch word for "Street".
Complicated?
 
Right now the Photo Kina is the place where the battle of the prices is fought.

New developments like larger sensors and the arrival of the Leica S2 are the cause for more competition and lower prices.

Everybody wants to close deals in a market that is not exactly filled with motivated buyers now.
 
Hi,

I'm new here (unfortunately that is my first post) and considering to
go digital and invest in a H System. I was kind of on and off (and still am)
with the CFV but made a decision to not further invest in my V System.

My dealer (PPL in Karlsruhe) updated me with some new price info
from photokina (see below, prices don't include VAT!!!).
Interestingly, there are no more promo deals, the H3DII-31 promo
price is the list price now.
And then, they mention a HCD 4.0-5.6/35-90 mm lens.

There is also a photokina special: In case you order a H3DII-31 or 39
you can get a second lens for half of the price.

I will be visiting photokina this Saturday, i might return with a H3DII-31 ;-)

Best Regards,
Ralf

H3DII-60 EUR 22.995,- (Lieferstart vorauss. in 8 Monaten) NEU
H3DII-50 EUR 17.995,- (Lieferstart jetzt = Okt. 08)
H3DII-39 Multishot EUR 19.995,-
H3DII-39 + HC80 Bundle EUR 14.995,-
H3DII-31 + HC80 Bundle EUR 11.995,-
CFII-39 Multishot EUR 18.995,-
CFII-39 EUR 13.995,-
HCD 4.0-5.6 /35-90mm EUR 4.990,- NEU
H-Powergripp (Netzadpter) EUR 225,-
Es gibt ab sofort keine Trade-Up bzw. Trade-In Angebote mehr.
Einzige Ausnahme: Upgrade von H3DII-50 auf H3DII-60 für EUR 5.000,- (Differenz der Listenpreise)

Als besondere Angebote während der Messe:
(photokina 2008 specials)

Flextight X1 für EUR 8.800,- (statt 10.800,-)
Flextight X5 für EUR 12.800,- (statt 12.800,-)
für H3DII-31 und -39 Bundle gibt es ein zweites HC(D) Objektiv zum halben Preis!
 
Welcome at the forum and thank you for your first post.

The H3D31 is a great opportunity at a tempting price.
Keep in mind the sensor is small that means all lenses are effectively longer compared to the 6x4.5 format.
A true wide angle means the 28 mm lens with electronic corrections to compensate for chromatic aberrations.

Digital is now in an exciting stage with new developments and lower prices.
No doubt a newcomer like the S2 from Leica has urged Hasselblad to change their price policy.

I wonder what answer a salesman will give to a client who confronts him with the 34.000 euro
he paid recently for a H3D39Mp.
That camera is now for sale at only 19.995 euro....

Paul
 
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