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Hasselblad CFV Digital Back CONTINUED

Eduardo

Yes , I think it is a good idea to open an own thread for the ARTIXSCAN F1 .
It would also be a good place to share the experiences with the F1 .

Paul

Yes the F1 is not an F1 (red Ferrari) and the housing is a dark grey (darker than zone V) .
But my first impression is positive .

Marcus

I like your "Strandvejen image" . Good shot .

Have a nice weekend to all . Jürgen
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Andy,

On Saturday my arithmatic is pretty bad.
Five weeks is not good but it is an improvement over the time Jürgens back spent in Sweden.
You are right to try the 120 first before getting a softar.
 
Jurgen, I for one will be keen to hear your updates on the scanner's performance - an affordable high quality MF/LF scanner is what many keen shooters are looking for. What is its resolution (pardon me if you've already posted that information!)?

Andreas, using the 120mm, 150mm and 180mm for portraits myself, I have only found one of them really begs the use of a Softar 1 (for women and when hooting relatively tight) to soften the lens' "brutal" sharpness and resolution of fine details - the 180mm.

Just like I posted after trying out my CF 120mm M-P, you will find it a wonderful lens is all uses. It has a beautiful and very flexible angle of view.
 
Hi all,

after a few days i now can confirm that my back is working perfect again - it can keep time & date settings as it should.
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I had to upgrade to photo shop CS3 due to several reasons and i found the function Zoomify quite funny. I made a full resolution picture of my 503CWD/CFV back available at my home page. Maybe it is fun for also to play with it and make up your mind about the quality of this back. You can find it under the links page ore directly here.

Greetings Andy
 
Hello
New to Site - trying to buy CFV back for my pristine (12 rolls) 503CW (2003). Camera works perfectly with winder, until back is put on — then the mirror and shutter function and the back RECORDS A CAPTURE, but it is not captured until button on winder is released.

All is consistent — Strobe, natural light, all lenses, and back setings — even when back is wired to lens. Same result. Cameraa functions perfectly when CFV back is off.

Hasselblad USA is stumped and wants to charge me $275 to figure out what is "wrong" with a body that works perfectly and is pristine. Hummm, not old Hasselblad spirit.

To quote, " We would rather lose the sale then cover the expense," that after I volunteered to drive the camera, lenses and CFV back to Parsippany! That was this Wed.

 I'm wondering if the batteries, which work with film back, might just not have voltage to drive back. — have not tried CFV on camera without winder. I think it is a small issue. They are acting soooo unprofessionally.

I've now agreed to pay Hasselblads fee, but Dealer is now refusing to sell CFV back to me —

Anyone have similar experience with back on camera? Esentially mis-sycro when winder is attached?

You can send me a private email response if you care to — I am in a hurry to get info as if I have aby hope, deal must be done by 12/30

Thanks all.

Trey Scott
 
> Hi Scott,

i got my winder two days ago and was using it yesterday with my 503WD

- it works like a charm, no problem at all. Sorry to hear about your troubles....

Greetings Andy >
 
That stumps me also.

But, let me see if I can help anyway. Forgive me if you already did all of this, but it doesn't hurt to ask just in case.

Did you go into the menu on the CFV back, scroll to > Settings, then to > Camera, then select > Winder CW ?

If that isn't it, then I would remove the winder and try the back without it to isolate where the problem may be. Be sure to re-set the CFV menu camera selection to "500".

Let us know if that helped, and I'll continue thinking about it in the meantime.
 
Yes, we changed settings. We wired the Digiback directly to the shutter on the lens, changed the settings on the DigiBack from strobe

to 500 to CW — consistently made capture out-of-sync Process seems to

be — mirror and shutter go through normal process when winder button

on handle is depressed and released —it appears a capture is made or

attempted by DigiBack. If you repeat the process but HOLD THE BUTTON DOWN, you see the mirror swing up, shutter open and close and hear the DigiBack attempt an out-of synch capture, when the BUTTON on

the WINDER is released, the DigiBack makes another capture.

Totally normal cycle when film back was on, off.... Tried with different lenses — it is consistent.

AND, some how during the shoot before I knew the cycle—I was able to

time my exposures (ƒ11.5 @ 15 under strobes) so that if I hit the winder button, quickly two or three or four times (press and release), I'd get a (more or less) normal capture. Else, captures were magenta, or looked like visions from an LSD trip. This was before the post shoot analysis that revealed the capture was not in- synch with the shutter opening but occurring on the RELEASE of the Winder Button.

BTW Getting a decent exposure was also a feat, I might proudly add,

that was not reproducible by the tech. Meaning the tech could figure out what the camera was doing, but couldn't time it to get a decent exposure....

I want to make that test — the ONLY test not made. But the dealer has currently "withdrawn the back from sale to me" because of this problem

Thank You for your help —Hasselblad is closed as is the dealer. I'm

hoping I can at least have enough info before Wed for them to at least try the test — what is your thought on the possibility that since the body/winder have been dormant for several months and the batteries in the winder that old, a small voltage drop might be the simple route of the problem—it is throwing things off just a tiny bit, but for the capture back, that is enough to confuse the timing —

it does seem as if the back is getting a signal to capture on the push down, and does so out of synch with the shutter, then when the button is released, it makes another capture.

So, when I was pushing the winder button quickly in succession — it

was probably the second capture that was making the exposure when the

shutter opened the second time (on the second push down)

Trey Scott
 
Andreas Thank you for the reply It gives me hope that it is a minor bug. I am concerned that the "New =20=

Hasselblad" feels strongly that they "will not pay" to assess the =20 anomaly. The camera is in pristine condition having only been used =20 for 20 or fewer rolls, before being shelved. The warranty expired in =20 2003, the CFV came out in 2006 =97 the camera shows no obvious defect =20=

or need of "repair," yet a manufacturing defect (a pinched wire, =20 etc...) could be the cause =97 Hasselblad to offer to find the problem =20=

in two working pieces of equipment they advertise are meant to work =20 together =97 this is most difficult to understand or accept, especially =20=

since it is probably a minor issue and the PR value so high.

Trey Scott
 
Well, it is difficult to trace the issue if you don't have the back. Now you can't remove the winder and try it, or put fresh batteries in the winder. Or try it on a different camera.

You say the dealer has withdrawn it from sale. What are they going to do? Try that back on another body? That's the first thing I'd do. That would sort it out quickly. If it worked , then it's your camera, if not it's definately the back.

The CFV is triggered by the mechanical release lever in the bottom right side of the camera ... which is visible with the back off the V cameras. When you fire the camera, it should immediately project out. Since I am not an engineer, I have no idea what controls the timing of that lever, or what it does once projected into the CFV back ... but I'd assume it somehow completes a circuit to activate the electronics in the digital back.

What I also don't know is why you have to set different camera designations between a 500 camera and a 503CW ... but I'd suspect it's a timing thing. Perhaps the winder is ever so sightly slower than the direct mechanical trigger of the a V camera without a winder (???) If the lever is slow, the back would then be out of sync.

I could also see Hasselblad balking in case it IS indeed the Camera/Winder which is a used piece of gear and not in their control ... therefore would inform you of a cost. If it wasn't the camera, then the charge should be zero because it was obviously their back at fault.

Your dealer should be on top of this.
 
Hi Marc,

i also was figuring what that setting (500-CW) really does change. I did not change any setting in the CFV - but it works pretty perfect anyway. The winder was a pretty good investment - the V is way easier to hold steady and you are able to keep your eyes to the finder more easily.
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Greetings Andy

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also was figuring what that setting (500-CW) really does change. I did not change any setting in the CFV - but it works pretty perfect anyway. The winder was a pretty good investment - the V is way easier to hold steady and you are able to keep your eyes to the finder more easily. :)

Do you have a PME-45 also?

Steve
 
Stephen I do have the PME-45 and to be honest =97 I have never taken a meter =20 reading with it =97 don't really know how it works. I know the sun =20 hasn't changed much in all these years or use my Sekonic... =20 especially in the studio.

Trey
 
Hi Steve,

no - i do not have the PME45. It is a bit to expensive at the moment - i did buy lenses instead of that. I think it is a better investment. ;)

Andy

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