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Digital back vs scanned film

I have used the CFV-39 on my 903SWC and it works to satisfaction. There is a little magenta cast which can easily be removed with Phocus or with CS5. There is no blur in the corners if I work with f>8.

The CFV-39 is 1.1x crop. The H4D-31/40 is 1.3x, which was the subject of our off-line conversation. Sorry, if that wasn't clear.

What I find confusing with crop factors, is the acceptance of the Hasselblad user base to accept the 1.5x crop on the vertical dimension. it's taken for granted that (6x4.5) is all thats available, so accept it ..... etc.

Now, I've not met, nor read about, a single Hasselblad user who thinks a Mamiya/Pentax 645 is the same tool as a 6x6 V on film. Never met a Hasselblad user who used the available 645 back as the preferred back and in fact have never met one who actually owned a 645 film back. But we seem to shrug our shoulders and accept that the wide dimension, defines the crop.

Well, purchase a 645 V back, put it on your SWC, and tell me if it works for you. I suspect you'll notice something missing.

I also read that the CFV-39 is not suitable for the SWC, but I don't know if that's completely unsuitable, or only on the outer edges of the frame. Perhaps someone can advise ?

I've owned a CFV-16 and found the 1.5x crop too restrictive and sold it on. Despite what I've written above, I'm really interested in a 1.1x H4D for the AF feature, but the price of that baby is well outside my budget and so, I'm contemplating a used CFV-39 again and hoping that the extra pixels, vs the CFV-16, will make up for the 50% vertical crop for portraits. I hope somebody here will expand on that.

Maybe, I'm not giving due credit to the H4D-41 with it's heavier crop and missing the advantages of the camera compared to the CFV option.
 
A question

I have a mint PME 90 which will not work with a CFV back and am looking for a 45 prism. Will the older style PME 45 work with the digital backs such as the cfV 50 and also the Accumat screen.

Cheers. Tom
 
The old and new types PME work with CFV and acute mate. (With the first version of PME, you have to modify iso setting:For 800 asa on CFV set 1600 asa… but the CFV is a lightmeter it self !)
However, the 3.5 magnification of PM(E) give no chance for foccusing. Personaly I preffer the new type of PME that allow the dioptry correction as by night I need more correction than by day.
I'm thinking about modifying the ocular lens of my old PM to get direct 6x magnification with this viewfinder. Funny for me that I modified the same viewfinder 20 years ago to put a flashmeter inside.
 
Putzing about the house with the new CFV50. Nice piece of equipment and well keeping with the size and style of the original camera. -30 F and darkish so not much outside opportunity today. calumet did include a Sony battery which is not part of the original Hassy equipment, but not having a suitable charger, a trip to the local camera emporium was necessary. A special accu mat screen is included with crop marks and split image focusing aid. no wonder the Hassy software is called. Phocus..... The PME 90 is of course a no fit, but only by a milimeter or two.... Arrrg.

A lot of promise in this with careful work!

Cheers. T
 
When you forget the financial part for a moment,
think about the pleasure of shooting more than 12 frames without the interruption, of changing films.
I can imagine that you are an old school photographer and have no need
to should hundreds at a time, but 12 is not a lot, when you're working hard
in a fashion shoot.
But I do agree it's quite an investment.
GEO

That... and the fact that Kodak is close to going tits up it seems :-( :-( :-(
 
I'm shoked to imagine Kodak could diseapear…I recieved my 9 last Kodachrom 64 exactly one year ago (sent december the 28th of 2009 !).
However 10 years ago when the Fuji S2 was a refference for digital sensor, I never understood why, Hasselblad used Fujifilm to new H body and lenses contribution instead of using fuji digital sensor knowhow.
 
I would hate to see Kodak go away. I can see going back to compounding our own developers like the really good old days.... I still have freezer full of enough 120 film to keep my needs going for a while.

Came across a 32 MB CF card in a drawer the other day, sort of like sheet film by today's standards. My neighbor who is a wildlife photographer told me many years ago that digital would never cut it for wildlife as you couldn't take enough photos.... For me the CFV helps with aerial work as it was always a PITA changing backs and reloading them whilst also flying the plane in the high mountains. That it might also be a bit cold was merely a given. The ability to check exposure and function in real time is also invaluable.

Cheers. T
 
My understanding of the SWC issue with digital deals with the oblique angle with which the light impacts the digital sensors, as opposed to the more straight on angle of a retro focus lens. For this reason some lenses that have done well with film are sometimes not optimal with digital. It may be that improving sensor technology will help this out at some time in the future.

Everything is always a compromise in one way or another.

T
 
Not yet a chance to test this outdoors but did and impromptu food shot for my lady who might like to do an illustrated recipe booklet for family and friends. On the counter via available tungsten and halogen light, the tungsten setting in the back worked well indeed color wise and the clarity on a 21" screen is spectacular.

Getting impatient to give this a good workout!

T
 
Enjoy your CFV 50, it is an amazing piece of technology..... would love one - as I really like using the old Zeiss lenses and the look and feel of the 503.
 
Hope to be able to drag it to New Zealand next month. I am using it with a 500 CM that I bought new in 1974..... Still in excellent condition. Might take it to Hong Kong next week, maybe... Should start working out kinks in my technique with it.

Cheers. T
 
@Flieger 747
I hope you will post a lot about your experience with your Hasselblad CFV,
during your trips. Reports like this are só interesting.
Have a very good time in Hong Kong and later on New Zealand!
GEO
 
One interesting issues arose with one of my CF readers. It was corrupting the data on the CF card for some unknown reason. My other one works fine. This is only an issue since my PC laptop which I travel with does not have FireWire. Both of my "mainframes" have FireWire cards and the one in the studio can be used to tether if desired.

Still a learning process.

Cheers. T
 
Bit of a Blizzard in Anchorage Alaska yesterday, took a snow test shot out the window (not great art) and started pixel peeping. I saw what I thought was film like grain, but when I got to the wall, I was amazed to see it quite smooth. The back was resolving the individual snow crystals. Where I am hoping that this works out well will be in very smooth skies. In my high altitude mountain aerials with the Canon MK5II the skies do have a discernable granularity (if slight) in 16x21" prints.

Cheers: T
 
I'll jump in.
I have a 503EX and tried film. Two rolls and had to take the plunge... just got in my way. Thought I was going to love getting back to my beloved Velvia... nope.
Got a Phase One P20 on ebay.
"Just" 16MP... big fat pixels with incredible resolution.
Have to say, the 80 did not cut it with the P20. A nice 60 did the trick.
Lusting for a "+" back for better night performance.
Small sync cord, not a problem. Have one on each lens, so only the small plug into the back gets changed.
System lacks the zip of the H, but don't need it for my use.
 
The CFV50 seems to be a fairly straightforward substitute for film, operationally. The camera with the 45 deg finder is not particularly easy to use on it's side. However it is very easy on a tripod to merely shift the camera upward slightly to obtain a square or vertical pan of extreme quality. These look amazing even way zoomed in on a 27 inch monitor.

Film has no comparison quality wise, though for the V system small changes in working are necessary. The battery hanging down does prevent use of the tripod shoe, my favorite accessory, and my PME 90 which I greatly liked, is not useable by a very small interference.

As nearly everyone here has said, careful focusing is especially necessary with the wide angle lenses. The care necessary is similar to large format working, and possibly of at least equal quality.

In black and white conversions I am still getting some more granularity of the sky than I might like. I haven't printed any of these as yet so can't make a direct comparison to the Canon 5DII prints that I have been making.

The computers protest a bit at the file sizes and a new terabite external drive was necessary for traveling.

Cheers. Tom
 
Do you mean that film is better than CFV50 or the contrarry?

Stitching MF can give some amazing results. WHen you go near such a picture you discover more and more. That's why I like MF compared to 35mm/APS-C.
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quote=Fliger747;47358]The CFV50 seems to be a fairly straightforward substitute for film, operationally. The camera with the 45 deg finder is not particularly easy to use on it's side. However it is very easy on a tripod to merely shift the camera upward slightly to obtain a square or vertical pan of extreme quality. These look amazing even way zoomed in on a 27 inch monitor.

Film has no comparison quality wise, though for the V system small changes in working are necessary. The battery hanging down does prevent use of the tripod shoe, my favorite accessory, and my PME 90 which I greatly liked, is not useable by a very small interference.

As nearly everyone here has said, careful focusing is especially necessary with the wide angle lenses. The care necessary is similar to large format working, and possibly of at least equal quality.

In black and white conversions I am still getting some more granularity of the sky than I might like. I haven't printed any of these as yet so can't make a direct comparison to the Canon 5DII prints that I have been making.

The computers protest a bit at the file sizes and a new terabite external drive was necessary for traveling.

Cheers. Tom[/quote]
 
Digi is much better, as it was an improvement in the 35 mm sized cameras.

I have made some quite nice panoramas from the 5Dii, but might have to get a bigger printer? Currently use the Epson 3800.

Cheers. T
 
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