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So noonebs using Ancient Hasselblads then
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Is 'Long Neck' a regional brand of photographer's accessory (aka beer)?
Down in the Lucky Country, 'long neck' is a generic term for a large (750 ml) beer bottle, as opposed to the little 'stubbies'.
I believe Juergen has already been invited to knock the scab off a cold one here, but it would be a bit of an ask for him to get through all the long necks in Australia! Especially as a wine drinker.
I think the Hasselbladder sect would be the beer drinkers, QG.
Nick
Down in the Lucky Country, 'long neck' is a generic term for a large (750 ml) beer bottle, as opposed to the little 'stubbies'.
I believe Juergen has already been invited to knock the scab off a cold one here, but it would be a bit of an ask for him to get through all the long necks in Australia! Especially as a wine drinker.
I think the Hasselbladder sect would be the beer drinkers, QG.
Nick
Nick,
I expect, the Hasselbladders being the free thinkers, they would drink anything they like.
The Hasselbladians would only allow themselves (and others, if they had their way) to drink öl, or Baden-Württembergisches.
Some of them might even think that an abomination, and would only drink öl from German glass tankards. And among this group there is a battle raging about whether the tankards should be from Oberkochen or Jena. Did He (sometimes also referred to as VH, but some find that too familiar, too disrespectful) not first use Jenaer glass before he used Oberkochener?
And the Hasselbladians would only have long neck bottles on sundays and holidays. The rest of the time, they would honour the old tradition of storing their beer in open jugs or buckets.
Though this last practice is mostly found among the Bavarian branch of Hasselbladians (which have jumped on this, because there is no room for their Steins in the Hasselbladian orthodoxy, and they needed this as substitute.)
Be careful before subscribing to the Hasselbladian cult: there is no 'opt out'. Once in, your in (even if you find you like Löwenbräu better than Ahlafors or Grebbestad).
Though the belief contains something referred to as "Opt on". One aspect of the religion that is still little known, and in need of researching.
I expect, the Hasselbladders being the free thinkers, they would drink anything they like.
The Hasselbladians would only allow themselves (and others, if they had their way) to drink öl, or Baden-Württembergisches.
Some of them might even think that an abomination, and would only drink öl from German glass tankards. And among this group there is a battle raging about whether the tankards should be from Oberkochen or Jena. Did He (sometimes also referred to as VH, but some find that too familiar, too disrespectful) not first use Jenaer glass before he used Oberkochener?
And the Hasselbladians would only have long neck bottles on sundays and holidays. The rest of the time, they would honour the old tradition of storing their beer in open jugs or buckets.
Though this last practice is mostly found among the Bavarian branch of Hasselbladians (which have jumped on this, because there is no room for their Steins in the Hasselbladian orthodoxy, and they needed this as substitute.)
Be careful before subscribing to the Hasselbladian cult: there is no 'opt out'. Once in, your in (even if you find you like Löwenbräu better than Ahlafors or Grebbestad).
Though the belief contains something referred to as "Opt on". One aspect of the religion that is still little known, and in need of researching.
What the hell is a long horn ? ? ? and what is a long neck ? ? ?>
Jurgen:
As Simon wrote "you know how those Yanks love putting bull's horns on the bonnet of their "pick-up-trucks";
Long Horns are longer or wider than bulls horns and come from the Long Horn cattle mostly found and attributed to the great state of Texas!
Long necks are beer bottles with long necks, and might look somewhat like a long 600mm 2.8 lens, long on the top and fat on the bottom!
Q:
That was so good I am going to have one and fill up one of my 100+year old steins!
Regards:
Gilbert
Jurgen:
As Simon wrote "you know how those Yanks love putting bull's horns on the bonnet of their "pick-up-trucks";
Long Horns are longer or wider than bulls horns and come from the Long Horn cattle mostly found and attributed to the great state of Texas!
Long necks are beer bottles with long necks, and might look somewhat like a long 600mm 2.8 lens, long on the top and fat on the bottom!
Q:
That was so good I am going to have one and fill up one of my 100+year old steins!
Regards:
Gilbert
QG
...so the sects aren't named on physiological grounds. Funny, I must have missed that essay on HH...
I have no idea what a Baden-Württembergisches is (perhaps a vegetable like a mangel-wurzel?), but I get the impression that the Hasselbladders are the reformed sect, reacting against the old orthodoxy. Was there a proclamation pinned up on a door somewhere?
Fundamentalist Hasselbladians would only use 1600F cameras, I suppose. On Ansco film. Others may use a 500C, but perhaps feel guilty about it. But all look like they have eaten a raw lemon when they say 'Fujiblad'.
Hasselbladders, a-swill with the alcoholic beverage of their choice, are running out to buy H3Ds. And applying DAC to correct the distortion in their faculties after overindulging.
Was Vic a beer drinker? Or perhaps he preferred a glass of scotch with Zeiss in it?
...so the sects aren't named on physiological grounds. Funny, I must have missed that essay on HH...
I have no idea what a Baden-Württembergisches is (perhaps a vegetable like a mangel-wurzel?), but I get the impression that the Hasselbladders are the reformed sect, reacting against the old orthodoxy. Was there a proclamation pinned up on a door somewhere?
Fundamentalist Hasselbladians would only use 1600F cameras, I suppose. On Ansco film. Others may use a 500C, but perhaps feel guilty about it. But all look like they have eaten a raw lemon when they say 'Fujiblad'.
Hasselbladders, a-swill with the alcoholic beverage of their choice, are running out to buy H3Ds. And applying DAC to correct the distortion in their faculties after overindulging.
Was Vic a beer drinker? Or perhaps he preferred a glass of scotch with Zeiss in it?
Nick,
You know, believes work on the basis of not knowing.
That's a general thing, since we actually do not know anything, and hence have no choice but hold beliefs about what we ate yesterday, how to thread a shoe lace, and the entire world we live in.
In general too, that's not a problem. As long as it 'works', who would have concerns about it?
Anyhow (i had already started a dissertation about belief systems, but thought better of it and deleted the lot), the thing with these two factions is that the first believe that VH might like to drink anything he would like to drink (a rather safe belief, wouldn't you say?), while the latter do have particular ideas about the matter (again, i'll spare you long - and short - explanations why they do).
You will be familiar with the phenomenon that the more unsafe, or 'risky' a certain belief is to adhere to, the deeper the conviction with which it is held is.
The high point of any such belief, the moment its over-worldly, i even dare say divine, truth is revealed, is when it becomes clear that it simply cannot be so as the belief would have it.
If it cannot be so in this world, it must be ... Right? Right!
Throughout history, a very short and easy to remember phrase was (and still is, because we haven't come up with something better) used for this, that nicely encapsulates all aspects of the phenomenon.
It's usually given in Latin, and goes: "credo quia absurdum".
Too long winded already, i know. I apologize.
So now to the point:
The lenient Hasselbladder faction does not really care what Victor Hasselblad liked to drink, since they think he would and should have drunk whatever he liked. And because he did, so will they.
And even if not, they will still.
The strict Hasselbladians faction hold this or that believe about what He liked to drink (you can see i'm rather a 'Bladder than a 'Bladian: the Hasselbladian creed will be quite specific, but i really do not care what the specifics are).
And if it would be discovered that He liked to drink, say, cold Darjeeling tea, instead of what they thought He would, they will still think that He would drink what they thought He would. And find their conviction strengthened that it indeed is so, by what anyone else would regard a rather annoying and sobering bit of news.
In short, neither faction would really care what Victor liked to drink.
You know, believes work on the basis of not knowing.
That's a general thing, since we actually do not know anything, and hence have no choice but hold beliefs about what we ate yesterday, how to thread a shoe lace, and the entire world we live in.
In general too, that's not a problem. As long as it 'works', who would have concerns about it?
Anyhow (i had already started a dissertation about belief systems, but thought better of it and deleted the lot), the thing with these two factions is that the first believe that VH might like to drink anything he would like to drink (a rather safe belief, wouldn't you say?), while the latter do have particular ideas about the matter (again, i'll spare you long - and short - explanations why they do).
You will be familiar with the phenomenon that the more unsafe, or 'risky' a certain belief is to adhere to, the deeper the conviction with which it is held is.
The high point of any such belief, the moment its over-worldly, i even dare say divine, truth is revealed, is when it becomes clear that it simply cannot be so as the belief would have it.
If it cannot be so in this world, it must be ... Right? Right!
Throughout history, a very short and easy to remember phrase was (and still is, because we haven't come up with something better) used for this, that nicely encapsulates all aspects of the phenomenon.
It's usually given in Latin, and goes: "credo quia absurdum".
Too long winded already, i know. I apologize.
So now to the point:
The lenient Hasselbladder faction does not really care what Victor Hasselblad liked to drink, since they think he would and should have drunk whatever he liked. And because he did, so will they.
And even if not, they will still.
The strict Hasselbladians faction hold this or that believe about what He liked to drink (you can see i'm rather a 'Bladder than a 'Bladian: the Hasselbladian creed will be quite specific, but i really do not care what the specifics are).
And if it would be discovered that He liked to drink, say, cold Darjeeling tea, instead of what they thought He would, they will still think that He would drink what they thought He would. And find their conviction strengthened that it indeed is so, by what anyone else would regard a rather annoying and sobering bit of news.
In short, neither faction would really care what Victor liked to drink.
Hi QG
Yes, belief systems are funny and interesting things. I know my credo is pretty absurdum sometimes.
Proof is contradictory to faith, hence Hasselbladians would never look at an MTF chart, rather just have faith that Zeiss (or Kodak??) lenses are best.
Here at the SIAS* Institute, a measure of empiricism is required. Although the odd leap of faith out of hours is acceptable. Which makes me somewhat agnostic regarding the Hasselbladian versus Hasselbladder division.
I do hope it does not go the way of the Sunni and Shia. That division is getting some external goading at the moment...we should watch out that Rollei people don't try to exploit 'blad internal divisions.
* Suck It And See
Nick
Yes, belief systems are funny and interesting things. I know my credo is pretty absurdum sometimes.
Proof is contradictory to faith, hence Hasselbladians would never look at an MTF chart, rather just have faith that Zeiss (or Kodak??) lenses are best.
Here at the SIAS* Institute, a measure of empiricism is required. Although the odd leap of faith out of hours is acceptable. Which makes me somewhat agnostic regarding the Hasselbladian versus Hasselbladder division.
I do hope it does not go the way of the Sunni and Shia. That division is getting some external goading at the moment...we should watch out that Rollei people don't try to exploit 'blad internal divisions.
* Suck It And See
Nick
Was it not the two-eye one-eye Rollei schism that made Rollei go away (yes, i know some Rolleians, of both sides, believe Rollei still exists. But it really doesn't)?
We Hasselblad[fill in your suffix of choice] are right now witnessing how a similar split has developed between us, waiting to see whether it will widen (well, will it not?) or whether the two sides will meet again and (though with the unevitable, permanent callous forming) grow to be one again.
Marc's announcement, uhm..., annunciation shows our current state, standing, spanning the abyss, with one foot on either side, praying that any next bit of news that might reach us will not be that extra inch/centimeter [circle your preference) that will make us lose our footing.
Wondering whether it would not be time to (contrary to the SIAS approach) decide now which side to jump to ("leap of faith"?), before it's too late.
Belief systems thrive on such 'existential' insecurities.
And not without affecting the very core of our existence as Hasselblad[fill in (etc.)]: it results in a selfpropelling movement amongst "the flock", driving factions apart, taking over as schism-forming power from whatever it was in the first place.
So unless the Powers That Be, the Demiurge from Copenhagen, lets us know very soon where He* wants to go (give us a map of the promised land, and directions how to get there), it will no longer be He who can decide. We will do that for Him.
And Hasselblad S/A will become a company selling "Made in China" MP3 players.
But have we here and now drifted from 'silliness' to 'seriousness' without apparent difficulty? The two, so close? So near?
*This "He" is not to be mistaken for the "He" mentioned earlier. "He" (the present one) might dream of attaining the same status. But that's all "He" can.
We Hasselblad[fill in your suffix of choice] are right now witnessing how a similar split has developed between us, waiting to see whether it will widen (well, will it not?) or whether the two sides will meet again and (though with the unevitable, permanent callous forming) grow to be one again.
Marc's announcement, uhm..., annunciation shows our current state, standing, spanning the abyss, with one foot on either side, praying that any next bit of news that might reach us will not be that extra inch/centimeter [circle your preference) that will make us lose our footing.
Wondering whether it would not be time to (contrary to the SIAS approach) decide now which side to jump to ("leap of faith"?), before it's too late.
Belief systems thrive on such 'existential' insecurities.
And not without affecting the very core of our existence as Hasselblad[fill in (etc.)]: it results in a selfpropelling movement amongst "the flock", driving factions apart, taking over as schism-forming power from whatever it was in the first place.
So unless the Powers That Be, the Demiurge from Copenhagen, lets us know very soon where He* wants to go (give us a map of the promised land, and directions how to get there), it will no longer be He who can decide. We will do that for Him.
And Hasselblad S/A will become a company selling "Made in China" MP3 players.
But have we here and now drifted from 'silliness' to 'seriousness' without apparent difficulty? The two, so close? So near?
*This "He" is not to be mistaken for the "He" mentioned earlier. "He" (the present one) might dream of attaining the same status. But that's all "He" can.
What's brewing? Hell, no one has the vaguest clue what it may be ... only pure dreamy speculation.
Annunciation Q.G.? Please.
I'd be shocked senseless if were anything to do with the current 500 series. But one can only hope ... including me with each foot spanning the so called "abyss".
Annunciation Q.G.? Please.
I'd be shocked senseless if were anything to do with the current 500 series. But one can only hope ... including me with each foot spanning the so called "abyss".