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blowupster
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BTW. The CFV appears on 2006 march 8th. when was is realy on sale ?
If I remember well the 500C was presented in NY in december 57 or was the 1600F was in december 47 ?
Can we imagine that they create a new back at the this year and sell in 2008 only ?
If I remember well the 500C was presented in NY in december 57 or was the 1600F was in december 47 ?
Can we imagine that they create a new back at the this year and sell in 2008 only ?
carl_sanders
Member
Hi Jurgen, the syncflash cable is not needed for studio flash work, it fires well without the additional lead.
jotloob
Well-Known Member
Marc
No LEAF dude . He is working for HASSELBLAD since ages and I know him since about 5 years . He is travelling around in southern Germany and advises customers and dealers at the dealers place .
But as already said , HE advises to use the sync flash cable in all cases (out of his experience) The documentation does not say so .
My 203FE has not returned yet from modification (parts are missing) . He could not answer my question if bracketing mode still works with the modified 203FE either , but asked me to send him an E-MAIL with my question . He will then use his channels to DENMARK/SWEDEN .
He could not do that yesterday during the road show , because he was too busy .
I have seen the FELXTIGHT X1 scanner the first time in my life . What a huge machine .
The scanner looks much smaller in the catalogue . If I would buy one , the guy I was talking about above , would come along and install the scanner together with me at my place and give basic instructions .
No LEAF dude . He is working for HASSELBLAD since ages and I know him since about 5 years . He is travelling around in southern Germany and advises customers and dealers at the dealers place .
But as already said , HE advises to use the sync flash cable in all cases (out of his experience) The documentation does not say so .
My 203FE has not returned yet from modification (parts are missing) . He could not answer my question if bracketing mode still works with the modified 203FE either , but asked me to send him an E-MAIL with my question . He will then use his channels to DENMARK/SWEDEN .
He could not do that yesterday during the road show , because he was too busy .
I have seen the FELXTIGHT X1 scanner the first time in my life . What a huge machine .
The scanner looks much smaller in the catalogue . If I would buy one , the guy I was talking about above , would come along and install the scanner together with me at my place and give basic instructions .
Instruction is critical. The scanner is fairly simple, but you need to get it right at first and build good habits. Your knowledge base gained with the digital back will smooth the scanning learning curve.
I am printing many 949 scanned Hasselblad 503CW and 203FE films on my new Epson 3800 using the RIP, and am continueously impressed with the beauty of what these cameras can procuce on paper. It's so lifelike that it is scarey.
We can forget what eye candy is possible when films are printed well ... after being deadened by internet compressed images.
I am printing many 949 scanned Hasselblad 503CW and 203FE films on my new Epson 3800 using the RIP, and am continueously impressed with the beauty of what these cameras can procuce on paper. It's so lifelike that it is scarey.
We can forget what eye candy is possible when films are printed well ... after being deadened by internet compressed images.
jotloob
Well-Known Member
Marc
Installation and basic instruction is contained in the price for the X1 scanner .
I have an EPSON 4800 printer , and that printer is fairly noisy . The 3800 I saw yesterday is very quiet . I was very much surprised about that fact . What RIP do you use and why ?
I do not use a RIP for my printer , also because I just don't know enough about RIPs .
Installation and basic instruction is contained in the price for the X1 scanner .
I have an EPSON 4800 printer , and that printer is fairly noisy . The 3800 I saw yesterday is very quiet . I was very much surprised about that fact . What RIP do you use and why ?
I do not use a RIP for my printer , also because I just don't know enough about RIPs .
Your 4800 didn't come with RIP software?
It makes a difference. I have a 2400 and 3800 both hooked up to my Mac, and can print on both of them at the same time. The 3800 through the RIP software, and the 2400 via the regular PhotoShop plug in.
So I sent the same image file to each printer and the RIP version was visably better. I then used PhotoShop to feed the 3800 the same image, and the result was the same ... the RIP version was visably better.
Using a RIP is easy. It's a stand alone program you can cue up any number of prints in and walk away. It's pretty no brainer.
It makes a difference. I have a 2400 and 3800 both hooked up to my Mac, and can print on both of them at the same time. The 3800 through the RIP software, and the 2400 via the regular PhotoShop plug in.
So I sent the same image file to each printer and the RIP version was visably better. I then used PhotoShop to feed the 3800 the same image, and the result was the same ... the RIP version was visably better.
Using a RIP is easy. It's a stand alone program you can cue up any number of prints in and walk away. It's pretty no brainer.
All printer drivers contain a RIP, don't they?
Jürgen,
Not that you should go behind this helpful Hasselblad guy's back, but you do know that you can send all questions you may have to info@hasselblad.se?
They certainly aren't the company Hasselblad used to be but i'm sure they will try to answer all questions.
Jürgen,
Not that you should go behind this helpful Hasselblad guy's back, but you do know that you can send all questions you may have to info@hasselblad.se?
They certainly aren't the company Hasselblad used to be but i'm sure they will try to answer all questions.
jotloob
Well-Known Member
Q.G.
There is an EPSON STYLUS RIP PROFESSIONAL V3.0 and that beast is optional .
As I could find out so far , it is for proofing buisness , which I do not have to do .
As I am living 250km away from any good HASSELBLAD dealer , I am glad to have contact to that guy again . He was not available , when I had the CFV disaster .
And I would feel free enough to contact HASSELBLAD in Denmark/Sweden . He is not my support God . Nothing of the kind . He is a substitute for my dealer .
I have addressed my 203FE auto bracketing question to Denmark about 2 weeks ago , but got no answer up to now . It does not matter in the moment , as the modification can not be done in the next 2 weeks anyway .
There is an EPSON STYLUS RIP PROFESSIONAL V3.0 and that beast is optional .
As I could find out so far , it is for proofing buisness , which I do not have to do .
As I am living 250km away from any good HASSELBLAD dealer , I am glad to have contact to that guy again . He was not available , when I had the CFV disaster .
And I would feel free enough to contact HASSELBLAD in Denmark/Sweden . He is not my support God . Nothing of the kind . He is a substitute for my dealer .
I have addressed my 203FE auto bracketing question to Denmark about 2 weeks ago , but got no answer up to now . It does not matter in the moment , as the modification can not be done in the next 2 weeks anyway .
jotloob
Well-Known Member
I got an answer from HASSELBLAD in Sweden today and it says , that autobracketing is not possible with a modified 203FE and a CFV back attached , as the capture rate of the CFV back is slower than the capture rate of the 203FE would be with film .
I was dreaming of the possibility to capture images in Auto-Bracketing Mode with very different EV values (+/- 2 EV from correct value) and then join them with software .
A kind of ZONE SYSTEM with digital backs .
I was dreaming of the possibility to capture images in Auto-Bracketing Mode with very different EV values (+/- 2 EV from correct value) and then join them with software .
A kind of ZONE SYSTEM with digital backs .
Paul, I know about this size sensors. Things is, all rectangular format sensors come in non-rotating backs, so you have to remove, turn and attach. Some serious risky action for clumsy people like me or butterfingered people.
If you ask me, I'd rather have a 48X36 sensor in a rotating back, but since this isn't happening, I thought the way to solve this would be to put on a sensor a tad bigger to counteract wideangle issues. Besides, the square format is beautiful. When done right is so elegant, nothing can touch it.
Perhaps also, Hasselblad could make the CFV work without a synccord, because it only attaches to the body just one way. Who knows?
Eduardo
If you ask me, I'd rather have a 48X36 sensor in a rotating back, but since this isn't happening, I thought the way to solve this would be to put on a sensor a tad bigger to counteract wideangle issues. Besides, the square format is beautiful. When done right is so elegant, nothing can touch it.
Perhaps also, Hasselblad could make the CFV work without a synccord, because it only attaches to the body just one way. Who knows?
Eduardo
I wish one of our resident engineers would weigh in on this larger square sensor subject.
As far as I can tell, there are two or three factors in conflict here.
Those who most want a big square sensored digital back are amateurs wishing to preserve their Hasselblad V cameras or Rollies ... to whom $30,000. to $40,000. is out of the question ... their desire is for a sub $10,000. solution.
The potential volume of this sub-section of MF users is miniscule compared to the volume of 35mm type DSLR users ... so there is no way to recapture the R&D, manufacturing costs, and waste inherent in larger sensors except to spread it out over this much smaller customer base.
( Here is the part we need more specifics on, and my understanding may well be flawed ) ...
... as I understand it, the configuration of a larger square sensor doesn't sync with the size of basic sensor components being made now. This seems to be a key element of the cost issues. As far as I know, current 645 sensors utilize 2 sensor components together to make up the whole. This presented a whole host of challenges to the hardware/firmware/software engineers to make these 2 elements work seamlessly ... especially as the meg count of sensors has increased. The Leaf Aptus backs struggled with this issue resulting in captures sporting what was called "centerfolding" ... where 1/2 of the image was different than the other half, (since solved with new firmware/software).
As it stands, a larger square sensor seems unlikely. Our love of square images isn't anywhere near the predominate mind set in photography. What is predominately practical is the current proportions of the 645 sensored cameras. The only flaw in the V system is the lack of a rotating back like the Rollie has ... which allows use of 645 proportions in landscape or portrait mode without removing the back to rotate it.
As far as I can tell, there are two or three factors in conflict here.
Those who most want a big square sensored digital back are amateurs wishing to preserve their Hasselblad V cameras or Rollies ... to whom $30,000. to $40,000. is out of the question ... their desire is for a sub $10,000. solution.
The potential volume of this sub-section of MF users is miniscule compared to the volume of 35mm type DSLR users ... so there is no way to recapture the R&D, manufacturing costs, and waste inherent in larger sensors except to spread it out over this much smaller customer base.
( Here is the part we need more specifics on, and my understanding may well be flawed ) ...
... as I understand it, the configuration of a larger square sensor doesn't sync with the size of basic sensor components being made now. This seems to be a key element of the cost issues. As far as I know, current 645 sensors utilize 2 sensor components together to make up the whole. This presented a whole host of challenges to the hardware/firmware/software engineers to make these 2 elements work seamlessly ... especially as the meg count of sensors has increased. The Leaf Aptus backs struggled with this issue resulting in captures sporting what was called "centerfolding" ... where 1/2 of the image was different than the other half, (since solved with new firmware/software).
As it stands, a larger square sensor seems unlikely. Our love of square images isn't anywhere near the predominate mind set in photography. What is predominately practical is the current proportions of the 645 sensored cameras. The only flaw in the V system is the lack of a rotating back like the Rollie has ... which allows use of 645 proportions in landscape or portrait mode without removing the back to rotate it.