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V series mirror slap!
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bradleygibson
Member
Haha--that looked like too much fun, so I decided to try it myself.
And to up the ante by using the focal plane shutter (more vibration), instead of the central shutter.
Hardest part by far was getting the penny to balance!
Come folks, gather 'round! Check out my web video debut...
Penny vs. 203FE
(hey, it was more fun than doing the dishes...)
Thanks for posting, Paul!
-Brad
And to up the ante by using the focal plane shutter (more vibration), instead of the central shutter.
Hardest part by far was getting the penny to balance!
Come folks, gather 'round! Check out my web video debut...
Penny vs. 203FE
(hey, it was more fun than doing the dishes...)Thanks for posting, Paul!
-Brad
As your attachment noted, these are the TLR and RF medium format users who cannot stand the fact the the rest of the MF users usually admire the Hasselblad. They just can't get over that other MF photgraphers are not impressed with their equipment.
Steve
polypal
Active Member
Steve,
Most users of other cameras admire Hasselblad cameras.
Part of this comes from the days a Hasselblad camera was an expensive item.
With a bit of luck you can get started now with decent basic Hasselblad kit around 600 USD.
Like quite a few other Hasselblad users my first MF camera was a Rolleicord.
Results made such an impression that I decided to upgrade and buy a Hasselblad camera.
The rest is history.
Paul
Most users of other cameras admire Hasselblad cameras.
Part of this comes from the days a Hasselblad camera was an expensive item.
With a bit of luck you can get started now with decent basic Hasselblad kit around 600 USD.
Like quite a few other Hasselblad users my first MF camera was a Rolleicord.
Results made such an impression that I decided to upgrade and buy a Hasselblad camera.
The rest is history.
Paul
bradleygibson
Member
I guess I'm a bit more of a "dummy" than Paul... (the word of the week)... It took me a bit longer to find my home...
My first medium format camera was a 500 C/M.
My second medium format camera was an H2.
I had to go around the block a bit to come back to the neighbourhood where I started out--Hasselblad V.
And now, my (sixth and hopefully final, at least for a good, long while) medium format camera is a 203FE. (Except for a brief, torrid affair with a Sinar (Rollei) Hy6, none of the intervening cameras had that *appeal* that the Hasselblad V has for me.)
Even we dummies get there eventually... (In fact, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the CFV-39... so Hasselblad can join me in the corner for not making this back sooner!)
-Brad
My first medium format camera was a 500 C/M.
My second medium format camera was an H2.
I had to go around the block a bit to come back to the neighbourhood where I started out--Hasselblad V.
And now, my (sixth and hopefully final, at least for a good, long while) medium format camera is a 203FE. (Except for a brief, torrid affair with a Sinar (Rollei) Hy6, none of the intervening cameras had that *appeal* that the Hasselblad V has for me.)
Even we dummies get there eventually... (In fact, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the CFV-39... so Hasselblad can join me in the corner for not making this back sooner!
)-Brad
Jackaubrey
Member
In 1984, as a young man of 21 I was inspired by a lecture in London by Ernst Wildi and afterwards by the wonderful selection of Hasselblad cameras and lenses on the table for inspection.
Later when I was about 28 I bought a new 180mm CF lens and got a free A12 back as part of the offer. I then bought a second hand 503CX from the Pro Centre in London. I used the set-up a few times but got fed up with the lack of TTL metering and the fact I could not afford any more equipment including the beautiful 205FCC which had just been launched.
I ended up trading it all in for a Nikon F5 from Grays of Westminster.
Earlier this year for some unknown reason I typed the word "Hasselblad" into evilbay. I could not believe my eyes at the amount of equipment for sale at very low prices considering the original new prices. I then realised that in time with a digital back I could put together a system that would knock the socks off most 35mm digital SLRs. I also realised that it was a cheaper option than buying the Leica S2 but would still give me quality German glass.
I have probably spent too much money since then but I am really enjoying owning and using the equipment and re-learning some of the basics of photography that most digital / auto everything users would not comprehend.
So my Hasselblad journey has taken 25 years so far and I hope I can now use and enjoy the system for the next 25 years.
Kevin
Later when I was about 28 I bought a new 180mm CF lens and got a free A12 back as part of the offer. I then bought a second hand 503CX from the Pro Centre in London. I used the set-up a few times but got fed up with the lack of TTL metering and the fact I could not afford any more equipment including the beautiful 205FCC which had just been launched.
I ended up trading it all in for a Nikon F5 from Grays of Westminster.
Earlier this year for some unknown reason I typed the word "Hasselblad" into evilbay. I could not believe my eyes at the amount of equipment for sale at very low prices considering the original new prices. I then realised that in time with a digital back I could put together a system that would knock the socks off most 35mm digital SLRs. I also realised that it was a cheaper option than buying the Leica S2 but would still give me quality German glass.
I have probably spent too much money since then but I am really enjoying owning and using the equipment and re-learning some of the basics of photography that most digital / auto everything users would not comprehend.
So my Hasselblad journey has taken 25 years so far and I hope I can now use and enjoy the system for the next 25 years.
Kevin
polypal
Active Member
Brad,
You did not exactly strike me as a dummy after reading your comments and contributions on the files Saad gave us.
Those comments were to the point and based on good understanding of the workings of sensors and related technology.
Thanks for your explanation.
Kevin,
For a relative newby in MF I was impressed by the way you commented and explained your first results with the 203FE camera.
Of course it is a hit and miss with some bulls eye shots.
Your rating will go up fast. I am sure of that.
You both were drawn to other possibilities than V cameras and came back to this concept both with a 203FE.
That can't be just a coincidence.
Paul
You did not exactly strike me as a dummy after reading your comments and contributions on the files Saad gave us.
Those comments were to the point and based on good understanding of the workings of sensors and related technology.
Thanks for your explanation.
Kevin,
For a relative newby in MF I was impressed by the way you commented and explained your first results with the 203FE camera.
Of course it is a hit and miss with some bulls eye shots.
Your rating will go up fast. I am sure of that.
You both were drawn to other possibilities than V cameras and came back to this concept both with a 203FE.
That can't be just a coincidence.
Paul
bradleygibson
Member
Aw, shucks! Thank you, Paul... 
It's my pleasure.
It's my pleasure.Jackaubrey
Member
You are too kind Paul - wait until I post up some of my first 'worst results'
I received a mint PM45 finder today (from the Swedish evilbay seller) and I have ordered a Grid / Split Image 203 screen from the Pro Centre so these items should help with both my focussing and composing.
Kevin
I received a mint PM45 finder today (from the Swedish evilbay seller) and I have ordered a Grid / Split Image 203 screen from the Pro Centre so these items should help with both my focussing and composing.
Kevin
Round-a-bout journey with Hasselblad
Kevin,
I enjoyed your tale of beginning with Hasselblad and going away and then coming back. It is similar to mine.
While at school at Brooks Institute in 1975, I bought a used ELM and a 120mm Planar after my room mate tired of me borrowing his 500cm.
I used it through school and then occasionally while working in a studio with 8x10 mostly for the next 11 years. I left that studio to start my own business and pulled out the ELM and it kept banging away for many more years until around 2000 I bought a 503CW and the ELM became the backup.
Just after that came the big push for digital. I went with 3mp Canon then 6mp, then 8mp, and then the 5D at 12mp which is where I am now. The 5D images are really great but I've known for sometime that I need to move up. That was to go to a 1DsmkIII at $7500. Of course I have a bundle of lenses for every need except I've never liked the "feel" of the "toy" cameras. MF was my money maker and business has slid a lot since going to the 35mm style digitals. I really didn't want to invest that much money in a 21mp sensor.
Then it dawned on me to go the other route and divorce myself of the smaller, but maybe more versatile cameras with "auto" everything, and pull out the wonderful older Hasselblads that do little or nothing automatically.
I'm in a transition phase of getting rid of most of the smaller format items and acquiring a digital back for the MF V system (and a 40mm). The confusing point is that I can buy a 40mmCFi + 503cwd + CFVII for less than the CFV39. No decision yet.
Thanks,
BC
Kevin,
I enjoyed your tale of beginning with Hasselblad and going away and then coming back. It is similar to mine.
While at school at Brooks Institute in 1975, I bought a used ELM and a 120mm Planar after my room mate tired of me borrowing his 500cm.
I used it through school and then occasionally while working in a studio with 8x10 mostly for the next 11 years. I left that studio to start my own business and pulled out the ELM and it kept banging away for many more years until around 2000 I bought a 503CW and the ELM became the backup.
Just after that came the big push for digital. I went with 3mp Canon then 6mp, then 8mp, and then the 5D at 12mp which is where I am now. The 5D images are really great but I've known for sometime that I need to move up. That was to go to a 1DsmkIII at $7500. Of course I have a bundle of lenses for every need except I've never liked the "feel" of the "toy" cameras. MF was my money maker and business has slid a lot since going to the 35mm style digitals. I really didn't want to invest that much money in a 21mp sensor.
Then it dawned on me to go the other route and divorce myself of the smaller, but maybe more versatile cameras with "auto" everything, and pull out the wonderful older Hasselblads that do little or nothing automatically.
I'm in a transition phase of getting rid of most of the smaller format items and acquiring a digital back for the MF V system (and a 40mm). The confusing point is that I can buy a 40mmCFi + 503cwd + CFVII for less than the CFV39. No decision yet.
Thanks,
BC
Jackaubrey
Member
BC,
And remember that wide angle lenses are not really wide angle when used with a CFV-II with the 1.5x crop.
That for me is the great thing about the CFV-39 only a 1.1x crop when used in the 37x49mm (6cmx45cm) format as well as the ability to switch to the 1.5 crop when it suits. Like the Nikon D3 it is effectively like having a built-in teleconvertor.
Kevin
And remember that wide angle lenses are not really wide angle when used with a CFV-II with the 1.5x crop.
That for me is the great thing about the CFV-39 only a 1.1x crop when used in the 37x49mm (6cmx45cm) format as well as the ability to switch to the 1.5 crop when it suits. Like the Nikon D3 it is effectively like having a built-in teleconvertor.
Kevin
Thank you for making my day better. If you use film, then wide angle lenses are wide angle lenses, the resolution is better, the color is better and guess what? You still have lots of money to buy other lenses and shoot film!
Steve
Jackaubrey
Member
Hi Steve,
I am myself a Hasselblad film user with aspirations for a CFV-39. In the UK it costs me about £1 to process and print a single 120 shot (with a CD supplied) and the CFV-39 costs £10,000 with VAT.
10,000 shots feels like a lot of picture taking and a very long time to equal the investment of the CFV-39.
Kevin
I am myself a Hasselblad film user with aspirations for a CFV-39. In the UK it costs me about £1 to process and print a single 120 shot (with a CD supplied) and the CFV-39 costs £10,000 with VAT.
10,000 shots feels like a lot of picture taking and a very long time to equal the investment of the CFV-39.
Kevin
To all and various
The 1.5 crop is the unattractive part of the CFVII -- the attractive parts are the price and the 9 micron photosites.
Shooting the 39 as square would be fine for me. Or flip the camera on its side once in a while with the 39 in vertical.
The film option is always less money if the client pays for the film as they should. But as I see it, Kodak and Fuji aren't really interested in continuing film since they also make the chemistry and sell the lab equipment. And labs are GONE from here. There is one transparency roll film lab in Indianapolis that I know of. The pro labs have shut their doors. Even Walmart won't process film. So mailing the film off for days is NOT an option. Too bad since I'm convinced that digital has a way to go to beat the convenience and ingenuity of film -- self registering, self filtering, self masking in just a tiny thin layer and it rolls up, plus no batteries.
The clientele has been conditioned for instant results now for many years and film is gone, dead and buried here. RIP
I think I'll go with a new 40mm and not the SWC because I've heard of some incompatibilty issues with the 38mm being too close to the sensor.
What is needed is a highly corrected new 30mm lens for the system. I've used the current 30mm and it is horrible -- it is wide but a fisheye. A long time ago I rented an old 40mm and it was not sharp -- hopefully the new ones are.
Maybe someone could make a high quality, grapefruit like, front element that is really wide that would bayonet onto the end of the 80mm-- making it an f2.8 superwide. There is an attachment like that used on the Panasonic LX3 for ultrawide and the photo examples were not that bad. Put a call into Samyang.
BC
The 1.5 crop is the unattractive part of the CFVII -- the attractive parts are the price and the 9 micron photosites.
Shooting the 39 as square would be fine for me. Or flip the camera on its side once in a while with the 39 in vertical.
The film option is always less money if the client pays for the film as they should. But as I see it, Kodak and Fuji aren't really interested in continuing film since they also make the chemistry and sell the lab equipment. And labs are GONE from here. There is one transparency roll film lab in Indianapolis that I know of. The pro labs have shut their doors. Even Walmart won't process film. So mailing the film off for days is NOT an option. Too bad since I'm convinced that digital has a way to go to beat the convenience and ingenuity of film -- self registering, self filtering, self masking in just a tiny thin layer and it rolls up, plus no batteries.
The clientele has been conditioned for instant results now for many years and film is gone, dead and buried here. RIP
I think I'll go with a new 40mm and not the SWC because I've heard of some incompatibilty issues with the 38mm being too close to the sensor.
What is needed is a highly corrected new 30mm lens for the system. I've used the current 30mm and it is horrible -- it is wide but a fisheye. A long time ago I rented an old 40mm and it was not sharp -- hopefully the new ones are.
Maybe someone could make a high quality, grapefruit like, front element that is really wide that would bayonet onto the end of the 80mm-- making it an f2.8 superwide. There is an attachment like that used on the Panasonic LX3 for ultrawide and the photo examples were not that bad. Put a call into Samyang.
BC
wbulte
Active Member
Not sharp? You can say a lot of things of my CF40FLE but it definitely is sharp!
Maybe they rented you some clunker that had been abused by previous renters?
Wilko