Exactly.....we forget they were designed with waist level finders = not ideal for tripod use!!!!
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Shooting hand held with 500CM
- Thread starter TonyM
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blowupster
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Why ?
blowupster
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Last week I bought an automatic monopod and a "joystik" head (Manfrotto), and tried to use it for skating pictures with 180mm+ 203FE+cfv.
I tried at the begining with the "new" PME 45 and then I change for the 4x4 viewfnder. As the competiton was really long, the monopode is practical and help a lot for easy foccusing.
Anyway I'm not happy with my poor result. I saw other photographs with Canikon stabilized AF 600mm /4.0 and they often made 10pictures /second.
Perhaps the Zeiss FE 540mm/4.8 SA with CFV was the good tool to get...
I tried at the begining with the "new" PME 45 and then I change for the 4x4 viewfnder. As the competiton was really long, the monopode is practical and help a lot for easy foccusing.
Anyway I'm not happy with my poor result. I saw other photographs with Canikon stabilized AF 600mm /4.0 and they often made 10pictures /second.
Perhaps the Zeiss FE 540mm/4.8 SA with CFV was the good tool to get...
wbulte
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And how many of those 10 exposures/second were useful?
Mind you, I also have a D700 but motor drives do not guarantee good shots. More the opposite I would say.
Wilko
polypal
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600 mm AF with stabilizer handheld means shooting at least at 1600 ISO to give images that can be used.
The correct focal length for the 300 mm f2.8 lens with converter is 510 mm.
A superb lens for the rich (you do not even need to be famous) to own this lens, just pay the bill.
wbulte
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That ISO 1600 is where the Nican's shine, you can actually use that ISO value. Quite surprising!
Wilko
polypal
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Any idea what resolution is left at 1600 ISO?
blowupster
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In fact it's impossble to use a 600mm for houres handheld. You use monopode. I was at 400 or 200 asa for 1/250 at 4.0 with the 180mm. Lot of light inside.
AF confirm for Blad V at the end of the night should be a good idea !
wbulte
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Actually, you'd be surprised..
That said, it is the old Marc/fotografz horses for courses all over again.
The PhaseOne guy explaining to me that ISO100 is what you should use on the PhaseOne P-series MF back, maybe ISO200 in a pinch, and 400 if you are desparate is a problem if you like me have a sort of attraction to bad lighting. I use Portra400 too often to be happy with a MF digiback that is (more or less) limited to ISO100.
Wilko
blowupster
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No special problem at 200 or 400 asa with the cfv-39.
The only film I use for speed is the TMY2. Velvia 50 is my choise for color film use (xpan and Leica M).
BTW most of time I need more than 400 asa, it's not by 5500°K !
The only film I use for speed is the TMY2. Velvia 50 is my choise for color film use (xpan and Leica M).
BTW most of time I need more than 400 asa, it's not by 5500°K !
polypal
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wbulte
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You can still be surprised about the quality of the image obtained under truly bad light conditions. That is what I meant
And: the resolution of a digital sensor is a given, X x Y photosites. How well these photosites are able to transfer useful (or pleasing to the eye) images is another matter.
I personally find color noise in digital images horrible, give me film grain any time. At the same time: I've never seen anything sensible from a color film of > ISO800. Good digital sensors outdo that easily by a couple of stops, with improvement ongoing as we speak.
Wilko
polypal
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You can still be surprised about the quality of the image obtained under truly bad light conditions. That is what I meant
Wilko
I knew you meant that. Yes, a lot of images at high ISO look pretty good
The fact remains that resolution goes down.
800 ISO is about the current limit for color negative film.
Agreed, digital color wins at high ISO compared to film.