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First Real Competition for V system

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If I were just an enthusiast, I'd simply return to 100% film and sell off all this digital gear except something for family snap-shots.

Interesting point of view from a personne who use a lot of digital gears.

2 years ago I was 100% digital, and now I turn 20% film.

2 years ago 100% of my print cost came from digital production and now 95% of my print cost issued from pictures taken on films.

It's hard to admit even for me.
 
Interesting point of view from a personne who use a lot of digital gears.

2 years ago I was 100% digital, and now I turn 20% film.

2 years ago 100% of my print cost came from digital production and now 95% of my print cost issued from pictures taken on films.

It's hard to admit even for me.

For me digital capture has been a commercial success and personal disaster.

People constantly refer to digital as being less expensive ... yet every single photographer I know has spent incredible amounts of money on digital gear over the recent years relative to what they once spent on annalog gear. Not that anyone is forcing them to do so, it just has happened that way. Perhaps due to the upgrade mentality fed by marketing hype and ever closer cycles of new models with this or that "must have" improvement.

Of these people I personally know, not one of them has become a better photographer for it. In fact, for some, they have become worse IMHO.
 
Of these people I personally know, not one of them has become a better photographer for it. In fact, for some, they have become worse IMHO.


Most photographers started with film only a minority grew up with digital capture.
Even for experienced photographers digital means less control over images.
Not as much in the technology sense but as far as concentrated working on images.
Film meant do it right the first time meaning a higher grade of concentration giving better results.

The same goes for musicical recordings that are to be made without editing.
Everybody involved is concentrated to avoid errors. That is what makes a good result not endless postproduction. IMHO.
 
Of these people I personally know, not one of them has become a better photographer for it. In fact, for some, they have become worse IMHO.

Steady on Marc, many would consider this to be heresy.

Seriously, I couldn't agree more. Sadly, and all too often, I see perfect pixels and yet a visual and creative void.

Please note, I've edited Marc's quote to clarify my own response
 
For me digital capture has been a commercial success and personal disaster.

People constantly refer to digital as being less expensive ... yet every single photographer I know has spent incredible amounts of money on digital gear over the recent years relative to what they once spent on annalog gear. Not that anyone is forcing them to do so, it just has happened that way. Perhaps due to the upgrade mentality fed by marketing hype and ever closer cycles of new models with this or that "must have" improvement.

Of these people I personally know, not one of them has become a better photographer for it. In fact, for some, they have become worse IMHO.

Hm, I think I can relate to that. Once I borrow my father's Pentax K10D I tend to be much more 'wasteful' with shooting. Like a good 250-something shots from a 1.5 hour flight with a sports plane over the Netherlands. 2 weeks Utah and Arizona with the 500C/M gave me 26 (I think) 120 rollfilms. Most of them from A12 backs. I guess I do not have to explain the ratio of "keepers" to any of you. I've never used a MF digiback (yet?), but it would sure be interesting to compare.

I had the 501C/M with me on that sports plane, but I never used it. The K10D has image stabilisation in the body, and that sure rocks (sic..) for this kind of work. That, and the fact the weather/visibility was not good enough for my taste to spend rollfilm on ;-)

Wilko
 
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