Film Medium Format accessories

[Professional]

Hey all,

I am waiting to get my film medium format cameras sooner or later, but i just ordered the bodies without anything, so i would like to start questions:

1. For Hasselblad 501C/M, what lenses do you recommend? I want to have only 1 or 2 no more [portraits, landscape].

2. What film back/magazine should i get for that Hasselblad above?

3. What film media you recommend to use with those film bodies, let's say for outdoor and indoor [Landscape, portraiture,...]?

4. What scanner do you recommend to use for the film?

I want to shoot portraits, landscapes, outdoor, street with the film cameras.

 

[wbulte]

Hey all,

I am waiting to get my film medium format cameras sooner or later, but i just ordered the bodies without anything, so i would like to start questions:

1. For Hasselblad 501C/M, what lenses do you recommend? I want to have only 1 or 2 no more [portraits, landscape].

2. What film back/magazine should i get for that Hasselblad above?

3. What film media you recommend to use with those film bodies, let's say for outdoor and indoor [Landscape, portraiture,...]?

4. What scanner do you recommend to use for the film?

I want to shoot portraits, landscapes, outdoor, street with the film cameras.

1. A CF150 with maybe a thin extension ring (8, 23mm) for portraits.
A CF50FLE for landscapes

2. A12

3. I use Portra160NC and 400NC for next to everyting. Ektachrome100
delivers stunning chromes.. Opinions differ of course.

4. Opinions differ here as well. I am still quite happy with my Epson
3200Photo flatbed.

Wilko

 

[Professional]

1. A CF150 with maybe a thin extension ring (8, 23mm) for portraits.
A CF50FLE for landscapes

2. A12

3. I use Portra160NC and 400NC for next to everyting. Ektachrome100
delivers stunning chromes.. Opinions differ of course.

4. Opinions differ here as well. I am still quite happy with my Epson
3200Photo flatbed.

Wilko

Hi Wilko,

Thank you very much for your answer.

1. To be honest, i also have my eye on 150, but i am not sure if i should go with either 40 or 60 not 50, because if that is true of what i've read then 40 is equiv of 24mm on 35mm format and 60 is equivalent of 35mm on 35mm format and those 2 are great focal lengths by all means, 50mm is i think equivalent of 28mm at 35mm format, correct me if i am wrong.

2. I see many recommend A12 as well, why not A24? I don't look at A16, so only A12 or A24, but seems that A12 is the winner here.

3. About the film media, it is a long story as i see many people prefer something to their tastes, let's say i want for portraits as i am almost decided on which for landscapes, so i am waiting more answers or recommendations.

4. I see, it is a tough decision, there is someone i met in UK[Scotland] who is using a film medium format [Pentax67] and he is recommending Nikon 9000 as he said it is better in DR, but not sure if he tested many scanners to get this judgment, but is it true what he said? I see many choosing Epson V500 or V700/V750, also Epson perfection or something similar, so like Canon and Nikon scanners are not that so popular maybe, but i really need to need which good scanner to get for long term, also i was looking to get a large format and i may use scanner for that as well, so i hope to get one scanner for all rather going with different scanners.


Thanks,

Tareq

 

[polypal]

2. could use some further explanation.
A stands for socalled automatic film backs meaning easier and faster to load than th eolder M models.

These backs were omtroduced in 1969.
No use to get 30-40 year old film backs.

The last upgrade, a keeper for the darkslide was introduced in 1996.
My advice is to look for one of those and keep an eye an traces of hard use.
A clean A12 from these last series can be found around 150-250 euro or 200-350 USD.







A12 last version.

 

[bensonga]

4. I see, it is a tough decision, there is someone i met in UK[Scotland] who is using a film medium format [Pentax67] and he is recommending Nikon 9000 as he said it is better in DR, but not sure if he tested many scanners to get this judgment, but is it true what he said? I see many choosing Epson V500 or V700/V750, also Epson perfection or something similar, so like Canon and Nikon scanners are not that so popular maybe, but i really need to need which good scanner to get for long term, also i was looking to get a large format and i may use scanner for that as well, so i hope to get one scanner for all rather going with different scanners.

Tareq

If you are looking for a scanner that will do both medium format and large format (4x5 and up), then I don't think the Nikon 9000 will work for you. I believe it only does 35mm and medium format. Like you, I wanted something for medium and large format. I orginally used an Epson 2450 and got good results for many years. A couple years ago I upgraded to the Epson V750 Pro. Noticeably better results at a very reasonable cost.

Here are a couple sources of info you might like to check out:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN1.HTM

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm

Re lenses for the 501CM. I would go with either a 150/180 and a 50 myself.

Gary

 

[Professional]

2. could use some further explanation.
A stands for socalled automatic film backs meaning easier and faster to load than th eolder M models.

These backs were omtroduced in 1969.
No use to get 30-40 year old film backs.

The last upgrade, a keeper for the darkslide was introduced in 1996.
My advice is to look for one of those and keep an eye an traces of hard use.
A clean A12 from these last series can be found around 150-250 euro or 200-350 USD.



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A12 last version.

I can try to find a clean good condition/mint film back, but i found new A12 at about $670, so i may go with that.

Now i chose 501C/M used, but not sure what issues it will be there later, but i really want to get a new body, so i found 503CW, is it worthy to get it new?

 

[Professional]

If you are looking for a scanner that will do both medium format and large format (4x5 and up), then I don't think the Nikon 9000 will work for you. I believe it only does 35mm and medium format. Like you, I wanted something for medium and large format. I orginally used an Epson 2450 and got good results for many years. A couple years ago I upgraded to the Epson V750 Pro. Noticeably better results at a very reasonable cost.

Here are a couple sources of info you might like to check out:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN1.HTM

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm

Re lenses for the 501CM. I would go with either a 150/180 and a 50 myself.

Gary

Ah ok, because that photographer i met has 2 cameras which are film medium format and film 35mm only, so maybe that's why he chose Nikon 9000, but i am really have my eye and mind on Epson V750, i dunno why but i hope it should be a better choice for me with medium format and large format as well.

Thanks Gary,

Tareq

 

[polypal]

I can try to find a clean good condition/mint film back, but i found new A12 at about $670, so i may go with that.

Now i chose 501C/M used, but not sure what issues it will be there later, but i really want to get a new body, so i found 503CW, is it worthy to get it new?

No need to look for used gear if you are prepared to pay for new.
The price for a new A12 you mentioned is quite good.
Of course nothing better than new.
It also helps Hasselblad keep the V series alive.


Paul

 

[Professional]

No need to look for used gear if you are prepared to pay for new.
The price for a new A12 you mentioned is quite good.
Of course nothing better than new.
It also helps Hasselblad keep the V series alive.


Paul

Because i always buy new and never look back, if any issue happened then i blame myself only, but if i get used and some problems occurs then i may blame the owners before, also the new can have longer life span of use than a used one, but in these days someone poor like me who would like to buy dozens of equipments and can't afford most will have a real trouble to go with new items, but used can waste money if something happened as well more than new.

Tareq

 

[stever]

I have only bought used Hasselblad equipment and so far out of four backs some needed new light seals, not a big deal, and one need a CLA. The cost for all four and the work done is still less than one new film back.

The available 220 films are quite limited. Unless the group contains the film you use, I would forget about the A24 backs. There is no cost advantage to shooting 220 film, only the less frequent reloading of film.

As far as lens lengths I have: 38mm CF SWC, 50mm CF, 80mm CF, 150mm CF, and 250mm CF. which gives nice jumps between lenses. I felt that the 60mm lens was too close to the 80mm lens. If I were to do it again I might go with 38mm CF SWC, 50mm CF, 100mm CF, 150mm CF, and 250mm CF, because of the better sharpness and perspective versus the 80mm lens. There is nothing wrong with the 80mm lens, just that 100mm lens should not be ignored.

The 40mm lens has slightly more distortion than the 38mm SWC, however the 40mm lens can be used with the PC Mutar for an effective 56mm lens that can correct perspective. I have very little experience with the 40mm lens and from the little I have seen posted here, I would have trouble picking out one versus the other. Ask others here about the 38mm SWC versus the 40mm lenses.

As I said, I seek to have a nice distribution of focal lengths [image size], but what really matters is what you are going to use the camera for. Example, wild life favors longer focal lengths. Traveling through Europe favors shorter focal lengths.

Steve

 

[Professional]

I have only bought used Hasselblad equipment and so far out of four backs some needed new light seals, not a big deal, and one need a CLA. The cost for all four and the work done is still less than one new film back.

The available 220 films are quite limited. Unless the group contains the film you use, I would forget about the A24 backs. There is no cost advantage to shooting 220 film, only the less frequent reloading of film.

As far as lens lengths I have: 38mm CF SWC, 50mm CF, 80mm CF, 150mm CF, and 250mm CF. which gives nice jumps between lenses. I felt that the 60mm lens was too close to the 80mm lens. If I were to do it again I might go with 38mm CF SWC, 50mm CF, 100mm CF, 150mm CF, and 250mm CF, because of the better sharpness and perspective versus the 80mm lens. There is nothing wrong with the 80mm lens, just that 100mm lens should not be ignored.

The 40mm lens has slightly more distortion than the 38mm SWC, however the 40mm lens can be used with the PC Mutar for an effective 56mm lens that can correct perspective. I have very little experience with the 40mm lens and from the little I have seen posted here, I would have trouble picking out one versus the other. Ask others here about the 38mm SWC versus the 40mm lenses.

As I said, I seek to have a nice distribution of focal lengths [image size], but what really matters is what you are going to use the camera for. Example, wild life favors longer focal lengths. Traveling through Europe favors shorter focal lengths.

Steve

Thanks Steve!

 

[cs_foto]

scanner: epson v750 best value for money, if you have money to burn get a hasselblad/imacon X1 or X5

film: kodak sucks! fuji is much better.. now seriously, any 'pro' emultion will be good, avoid cheap consumer emultions, they cannot be printed larger than 7"x5"

 

[bensonga]

Because i always buy new and never look back, if any issue happened then i blame myself only, but if i get used and some problems occurs then i may blame the owners before, also the new can have longer life span of use than a used one, but in these days someone poor like me who would like to buy dozens of equipments and can't afford most will have a real trouble to go with new items, but used can waste money if something happened as well more than new.

Tareq

Don't discount buying used equipment from a reputable source. I have bought alot of used Hasselblad, Pentax 67, large format and Nikon gear from KEH and B&H here in the USA and never had a problem with any of it. I only buy equipment rated EX+ or LN-, but I know many other folks who have bought equipment rated lower and been very happy. You can save many $$$$ buying used vs new. Also, there are many Hasselblad lenses for the V-system that are not available new anymore.

And you can't go wrong with the Epson V750 Pro!

Gary

 

[Professional]

Don't discount buying used equipment from a reputable source. I have bought alot of used Hasselblad, Pentax 67, large format and Nikon gear from KEH and B&H here in the USA and never had a problem with any of it. I only buy equipment rated EX+ or LN-, but I know many other folks who have bought equipment rated lower and been very happy. You can save many $$$$ buying used vs new. Also, there are many Hasselblad lenses for the V-system that are not available new anymore.

And you can't go wrong with the Epson V750 Pro!

Gary

I bought my Hasselblad [and Mamiya RZ67 ProII] both from KEH, the Hassy was EX+ anf the Mamiya was LN-

I will check about lenses later, and your recommendations will help for sure.

About the scanner, the only one i am thinking about is that Epson V750, it is affordable, but still i can't decide on it only yet.

 

[Professional]

scanner: epson v750 best value for money, if you have money to burn get a hasselblad/imacon X1 or X5

film: kodak sucks! fuji is much better.. now seriously, any 'pro' emultion will be good, avoid cheap consumer emultions, they cannot be printed larger than 7"x5"

I can buy that hasselblad X1 maybe after 1 year in condition if i strat to save and don't buy something else like lenses, lights, accessories, otherwise i will never buy Hasselblad scanner.

I will go with Fuji films, and almost i decided to go with 4 different films including porta, pro, velvia, ....etc.

 

[stever]

My used Hasselblad equipment comes from either Samys in the Fairfax district of Los Angeles or KEH at EX or EX+

Check the scanner manufacturers web sites for reconditioned scanners. I got an Epson 4490 Photo Scanner that was reconditioned for $100 including shipping a few years ago.

Steve

 

[Professional]

My used Hasselblad equipment comes from either Samys in the Fairfax district of Los Angeles or KEH at EX or EX+

Check the scanner manufacturers web sites for reconditioned scanners. I got an Epson 4490 Photo Scanner that was reconditioned for $100 including shipping a few years ago.

Steve

I don't know, buy maybe i will not buy anything else later, but maybe a large format if i can't find a new one then i may go with a used one, but i hope i can find a large format "New" one and i wish if i can get 8x10 instead of 4x5, so i don't think i will buy many stuff anyway, so i may keep going with new for new items, just only if an item i want and dream about but not available as new at all then i have no choice, in all cases i found Mamiya RZ67 Pro II as New, but i never find Hasselblad 500/501cm as new, only 503CW as new and i duuno when it will be discontinued but i hope not as i really want to get that instead of 501cm, and i can afford it next year but not sure if Hasselblad will wait me a year before they dump that 503cw as well.

About the scanner, i found that the more i pay, the more i get, so if i can't afford the best then i have no choice than going with cheap one and use it regardless of anything, that Imacon is really out of budget for long time, and found that Nikon scanner someone said it is not good for LF, so i have only Epson scanner to look at and i am not interested in Canon scanners.

 

[jeryharwood]

hasselblad/ lenses

Hi- in answer to your query; a hassy 501cm, + 40cfe for landscape, 100mm
if you can find one- superb for everything else, and possibly an 80mm F2.8 fo
portraits. link this with an A12 back with the darkslide keeper, an s type quick release plate+ tripod, and a Sekonic meter, and away you go !

 

[1000F]

I don't want to make a whole new thread just to ask this question, and since it's about an accessory for my 1000F I think this is the right thread!

Question: Is there a cable release available for the 1000F? I'd really love one

 

[polypal]

Older style cable releases fitting straight into the socket of the 1000F can be found with a bit of luck.
If I remember correctly Hasselblad supplied three different models.

The easiest way is to find a suitable adapter that allows the use of current release cables.
These adapters were supplied by Hasselblad after the old style release cables became NLA.
One of our most esteemed FUC members was so annoyed he could not find those little gems he decided to produce a small series of these adapters.

Send Jürgen Loob a well motivated pm and you might end up with a beautifully made adapter.

Paul