205 FCC : upgrade for CFV back compatibility

[Thomas73]

Hi all,

This issue has probably ever been discussed here but I did not succeed to find related threads...

Anyway, we know that ISO setting on E back is not transmitted to the body anymore after upgrade job for CFV back compatibility. So, what about the zone system latitude compensation on ECC-12 back : does it become inoperative as well after the upgrade?

Thanks for your replies.

Cheers.

 

[terrydent]

I would say no. Any information received from the back about iso or compensation will no longer be transmitted to the camera body as the body contacts are used for digital purposes now. Only my guess!

Terry

 

[blowupster]

Hasselblad consider that films are dead and film users are fired. Just watch at the H line now.

It's a mistake for 3 points :

• There are a lot of film users (see in Japan) and Hasselblad V is the best choice if you consider offers.
• Even digital pro are happy with film and if you consider the cash needed for a spare second MF digital back, films is the reasonable choice.
• Lot of digital users use films for B&W pictures.

A correct modification from Hasselblad is to add "ELD electrical lines" on 205 synchronised with miror position so the 205 body should have been used in C mode without any wire and the 205 may use E-12 back too !
If you hurt a finger, no need to cut arm.

 

[Victorh]

Hasselblad chose to use the contacts for the "E" or TCC backs to operate the digital back.
The only thing the 200 series cameras lost was the ISO setting by means of the selector on the film back.

The 205 TCC and FCC not only lost ISO setting, their zone operation by means of the film back controls was gone after the modification.

Film use is still possible but no longer with the comfort prior to the modification.

Keep in mind the modification is necessary to use TCC/F/FE lenses with
CFV digital backs.


Vic.

 

[Thomas73]

Hello,

Is the modification of 200 series bodies required to use F/FE lenses only?

What about the use of CF/CFi/CFe lenses in C mode on these bodies? Is the modification still necessary?

 

[blowupster]

No if you use CF (C) lenses with a 20x body, you don't need to convert the body for digital. However you need for converted and no converted body a wire between the lens and the digital back.
Realy stupid, but that's it.

I realized later that with my old "unconvertable" 2000FC/M I do need nothing when used with CFV (with CF, F C lenses) !
As light mesure is not needed ( the digiatl back is a powefull cell with histogram view) when you use digital, make your conclusion !

 

[polarcircle]

Do you mean that you can use CFV back with F lenses on 2000FCM body?

No if you use CF (C) lenses with a 20x body, you don't need to convert the body for digital. However you need for converted and no converted body a wire between the lens and the digital back.
Realy stupid, but that's it.

I realized later that with my old "unconvertable" 2000FC/M I do need nothing when used with CFV (with CF, F C lenses) !
As light mesure is not needed ( the digiatl back is a powefull cell with histogram view) when you use digital, make your conclusion !

 

[blowupster]

If you read the manual the answer is "NO !".

As I have a 2000FC left and I love this one too, I tried to use it on my CFV-39 set on "500cm" mode and…it works with C lenses or F lenses. Sometime I have bad result (one shot every 30 ones) cyan pictures.

I do not know if it works on every 2000F or just my old one.
The bad point is that you can not fit the motor on "FC/M", you need a "2000FCW" and I will not try to buy one just to see if it works or not.

I have a converted 203FE and I never use "C" mode with it as I do not like the idea to have an "easy to break" wire.
By the way: do you really need light mesures as you allready have histogram on your your digital back ?

It's just bullshit that Hasselblad cut E mode to convert 20x bodies. They ask lot of money to make a bad job. For this cash, they should add a trigger on mirror position for exemple and add "ELD" contact, so 20x body are synchronised with CFV (in F and C mode)….and synchronise the iso informations between body and CFV…

What correct paid convertion should do:
a) syncronise the body to the cfv for C and F mode
b) synchronise the iso value
c)synchronise the CFE lens infos: aperture and focal lenth…. as the CF converter for H body does
d)synchronise the "FE" infos: aperture, focal and speed value

A free convertion for every CFV buyer like the actual one, it's not a gift but a marketing short terme investment

By the way, what about a new "500D" for the c) point ?

I suppose the goal was avoid film use. It's the way nowaday for constructors to make technical choises to force you to become captured customers for next generation products. And this way works so well that you may be fired by moderators and other users if you make any notice on phone or pad forums. It's just a exemple.

Just "Thanks" me on the right blue button if you agree !

 

[polarcircle]

Good to know about the 2000.. Do you use with or without cable? If with cable then I guess the limitation is sync of 1?90s and slower but that's maybe not what you are doing?

If you read the manual the answer is "NO !".

As I have a 2000FC left and I love this one too, I tried to use it on my CFV-39 set on "500cm" mode and…it works with C lenses or F lenses. Sometime I have bad result (one shot every 30 ones) cyan pictures.

I do not know if it works on every 2000F or just my old one.
The bad point is that you can not fit the motor on "FC/M", you need a "2000FCW" and I will not try to buy one just to see if it works or not.

I have a converted 203FE and I never use "C" mode with it as I do not like the idea to have an "easy to break" wire.
By the way: do you really need light mesures as you allready have histogram on your your digital back ?

It's just bullshit that Hasselblad cut E mode to convert 20x bodies. They ask lot of money to make a bad job. For this cash, they should add a trigger on mirror position for exemple and add "ELD" contact, so 20x body are synchronised with CFV (in F and C mode)….and synchronise the iso informations between body and CFV…

What correct paid convertion should do:
a) syncronise the body to the cfv for C and F mode
b) synchronise the iso value
c)synchronise the CFE lens infos: aperture and focal lenth…. as the CF converter for H body does
d)synchronise the "FE" infos: aperture, focal and speed value

A free convertion for every CFV buyer like the actual one, it's not a gift but a marketing short terme investment

By the way, what about a new "500D" for the c) point ?

I suppose the goal was avoid film use. It's the way nowaday for constructors to make technical choises to force you to become captured customers for next generation products. And this way works so well that you may be fired by moderators and other users if you make any notice on phone or pad forums. It's just a exemple.

Just "Thanks" me on the right blue button if you agree !

 

[blowupster]

With my 2000FCM I do not use any wire. For F or C lenses.
So I have 1/2000 max speed in F mode and 1/500 if flash is needed.

I just need to set my CFV in "500" mode.
I can't say for every 2000 as I tested only mine.
As for a SWC without wire, it may appen that I get cyan picture (one for 50 pictures)

 

[polarcircle]

I guess the cyan shots are only for the SWC and not for the 2000fcm?

With my 2000FCM I do not use any wire. For F or C lenses.
So I have 1/2000 max speed in F mode and 1/500 if flash is needed.

I just need to set my CFV in "500" mode.
I can't say for every 2000 as I tested only mine.
As for a SWC without wire, it may appen that I get cyan picture (one for 50 pictures)

 

[blowupster]

I do not have any SWC (I only read about and saw somme pictures)
"Cyan picture" arrive time to time with the 2000FC and somme time with my converted 203FE+ winder when I go too fast (1,3 picture/sec) !