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what i really miss...
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Paul Claesson HUSA
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jotloob
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Paul
The 45 prism was an excellent solution for the V-SYSTEM .
Can you please let us know , why it could not also be an excllent solution for the H-SYSTEM ? ? ?
Jürgen
Paul Claesson HUSA
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The H system is a 645 rectangular (landscape) format system. When you rotate the camera to shoot in a vertical orientation it would extremely difficult to hold, compose and view through a 45° prism, in this situation the 90° is the better solution.
Paul
Paul
Paul Claesson HUSA
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I have photographed with square format for over 30 years and thoroughly enjoy composing in this unique format, and often used the phrase "my world is square" I have captured well over 300,00 images in my lifetime, a good portion of that professionally.
The wonderful thing with online communities is being able to share information, opinions, thoughts, experiences and images etc.
"IMHO HASSELBLAD has gone the wrong way many years ago."
My viewpoint will differ from other participants on this forum. I do believe that the changes to the photographic industry, the migration to digital capture from a traditional film capture has affected many companies, not only Hasselblad. It is the companies that look at the market, listen to their customer and try to implement the requests in a timely fashion and also lead their markets with new innovations will live a long life and prosper.
With regards to the H system, while some may not like the look, feel, handling or format there is a very large number who do appreciate what this camera can do.
Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA
Paul Claesson HUSA
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jotloob
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Paul
Thank you for your open answer .
I do not say , and will never do , that the H-SYSTEM is a bad system .
The system just does not meet my preferences and desires .
And when you say , that a very large number do appreciate , what this camera can do , I agree .
And they shurely are happy with that system . Thats , what they payed their money for .
But also , they do not have many other choices , and none for bigger square format .
I think , if there would be a true bigger square sensor back available , either with a sensor from DALSA or KODAK , then , many photographers just would go back to the square format . Any 4,5x6 is contained in a 6x6 . You can concentrate on composing and shooting (with no need for a gymn , by turning your camera from horizontal to vertical postion and back again) and do the cropping later (if neccessary or wanted) .
The LEAF APTUS-II 10 has a solution for that problem , but only because there is no square sensor available (yet) .
With 4,5x6 , you do the cropping in parallel to shooting (in your mind) , and you will still have to crop later .
That is out of my own experience , because I also used a BRONICA RF645 .
A great and easy to handle RF camera . But I never was really satisfied with the format . Now that camera has fallen into a deep sleep here in my safe .
A very well known german photgrapher once said to me , shoot format filling . How true .
I do hope , that sensor makers , DALSA and KODAK do have an open ear for the desire of a bigger square sensor . This is possible , as I have seen on the DALSA home pages . Sensors with a width of 86mm are already produced , but not avaiable for photography yet .
That means , the technology is there . So , who blocks a bigger square sensor to come onto the market ? ? ?
I also do hope , that HASSELBLAD is not deaf on its "square ear" and registers the desire of many , many photographers for a square sensor back , bigger than 37x37mm .
Also , I do hope , that the AFi/Hy6 system will survive . This system , beside the beloved V-System , is able to attach a bigger square sensor back and also film backs for 6x6 (if finally produced) . Film is still very alive .
Might be LEAF has an open ear . A 48x48 mm sensor back (or bigger) would perfectly fit for the Afi/Hy6 .
I also hope , that the mentioned companies , will hear my prayers and the ones of many , many others .
BTW , LEAF AFi-II has a 45 degree prism . How wonderful .
And there is still a gap in model numbering between the APTUS-II 7 and the APTUS-II 10 . What might come up here ? ? ?
And these backs can all be attached to the V-SYSTEM as well .
What a great system .
Regards Jürgen
polarcircle
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I'd love a H4 which also has a focal plane shutter like the 2000 and 200 cameras enabling higher shutter speeds and use of special lenses without leaf shutter. Which bt the way also can take film!! Even better a back with a square sensor.
Ronald
Paul Claesson HUSA
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Noted. A very costly proposition to create a new system and line of non shuttered lenses.
Paul
lenses
thinking about a 6x6 format:
i don´t know if the lenses are able to support a 6x6 format.
i think they are designed for 6x4.5 format.
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well you know all fine details make a system perfect.
when i photograph architecture i use to work with the "Remote release cord 0.5 m". i wish it could be longer (1m or so).
and i would love to have a Remote release cord with included "aperture and shutter-speed control" this would be great!
i would love to do a manual expusure bracketing without touching the camera-body ( i don´t want to take the laptop on location everytime)
by the way: connecting the remote release cord with the camera is a little bit circuitous...
this is the same with the mirrur-up button and the automatic release button.
helmut
thinking about a 6x6 format:
i don´t know if the lenses are able to support a 6x6 format.
i think they are designed for 6x4.5 format.
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well you know all fine details make a system perfect.
when i photograph architecture i use to work with the "Remote release cord 0.5 m". i wish it could be longer (1m or so).
and i would love to have a Remote release cord with included "aperture and shutter-speed control" this would be great!
i would love to do a manual expusure bracketing without touching the camera-body ( i don´t want to take the laptop on location everytime)
by the way: connecting the remote release cord with the camera is a little bit circuitous...
this is the same with the mirrur-up button and the automatic release button.
helmut
jotloob
Well-Known Member
Helmut
Your and my desires , and the ones of many others , would require the development of the next H-SYSTEM generation . The H4-BTRF .
(BTRF stands for back to the roots format)
Who knows , might be an H4(6x6) is already in the development pipe .
A 48x48 sensor or even a bigger one would possibly force HASSELBLAD to go that way . If they want it or not .
Sensors have become bigger and bigger in the past and that development will shurely go on . Electronic life is a short life and the development for bigger , faster , better will go on .
Your and my desires , and the ones of many others , would require the development of the next H-SYSTEM generation . The H4-BTRF .
(BTRF stands for back to the roots format)
Who knows , might be an H4(6x6) is already in the development pipe .
A 48x48 sensor or even a bigger one would possibly force HASSELBLAD to go that way . If they want it or not .
Sensors have become bigger and bigger in the past and that development will shurely go on . Electronic life is a short life and the development for bigger , faster , better will go on .
polarcircle
Member
Could be done for using the old F/FE lenses with the H system???? Hoping!!!!
At one time Hasselblad was also important in microscopy photography - whether MF would have any impact today I dont know????? Focal plane shutter here!!
Hadn't Zeiss already AF lenses for Hasselblad in the pipe??????
Ronald
polypal
Active Member
Yes;
Carl Zeiss made a series of prototype AF lenses to be used with the 500 system during the seventies.
This project was not taken further because Hasselblad management did not think the world was ready for AF in MF cameras.
The research and development department of Carl Zeiss was not amused to put it mildly.
No:
Carl Zeiss developed a series of excellent AF lenses for the Contax 645 camera.
The contract with Kyocera, who built lenses and bodies for Contax, stipulated an exclusive right on these AF lenses.
When asked why CZ did not design the lenses for the H series the answer is they could not fulfill the wishes and production volume Hasselblad needed for the H series.
The true reason was the old history with AF for Hasselblad and their agreement with Kyocera.
Carl Zeiss employed 20.000 in those days against Hasselblad 600.
This explains part of the anger the Swedish reaction on the AF project caused.
The Contax is no longer in production but the lenses designed by Carl Zeiss are extraordinairy.
Compared with a 120 Makro Planar for Hasselblad the 120 APO Makro Planar for Contax is a substantial improvement.